Magic Numbers all skiers should know!

Dshenberger wrote:5. Dates to purchase! Expained above.

Yeah, I had that one earlier but I don't think it fits with the house buying 'considerations'. I think compared to the two band rise in council tax that I hadn't 'considered' :evil: , the month I bought it seemed irrelivant.

Dshenberger

[My guess is: we will all be stunned at the simplicity of this! After all how hard can it be if 95% of all good skiers know it? ;)]

I agree - this is usually the way it goes!! Good point !!!!

[ He just likes to give us beginners a a hard time. ;)]

I see you know our great mentor - the true teacher- Pavel quite well!!! He enjoys bringing the answer out from within our basic knowledge.

[So, here is my list, (I feel bad jumping in this late:)]

Never feel bad about joining the Great Pavel Springtime Quizz aka: The Sleepless Night Club


It's good to know Ellistine and myself aren't alone in the quest for these great skis! The more in the quizz, the sooner we get the answer and all can return to restful nights!

Mike :D

I suppose sidecut, and radius are redundant. I am guessing that the flex is a part of this. But I didn't think there was an industry standard for ski flex.

It, also, seems to me that there is too much subjectivity in a choice of how much can I afford, what level do I need, etc. . . Just think, the world's best skiers don't think about how much their skis cost, or how much they can afford. The sponsors have to worry about that! :)

Binding position could be a number, I guess. But I don't know that much about their placement. Maybe binding height??

Ski weight?

What other numbers are there that apply directly to the skis??

Hey Mike, yes, I have noticed he really enjoys teaching. :) I am hoping someday he can give me some input into my skiing.

Oh boy!! Now I have three smart skiers ! You are all turning around the tree!

You have the concept yet do not know how to turn it into figures!

When you get answer and then read all your messages you will;
1. hit your head with the palm of your hand.
2. say , "ho that, yes NOW it is clear"
3. yes yes THAT figure is the most important one to consider


Really really last HINT.

Have you read the stories of the famous British dective Sherlock Holmes? In one of the stories a very valuable letter had to be "hidden" in a house!
The police knew for sure it was in the house. Yet after several searches it was not found!

Holmes found it because he thought like the "culprit"!

Mike you know me better than the others. Think like me!
You are the very best to get this one! Let me see if you have a good memory!
What surprised me and impressed me about you!
Think!
Your answer will lead you to the skis!

PS
For the rest of the pack, Mike is an engineer and has an analytic mind!

I Can not sleep any more since I have the answer and it is soooooo evident to me! I ask in my dreams, " why can they not get it"?

Pavel,

Oh this is getting really intresting now !!! And we haven't even reached the point where "The DaVinci Code" comes into the equation....

So since we are all loosing sleep and you suggest, Pavel, "Mike you know me better than the others. Think like me!
You are the very best to get this one! Let me see if you have a good memory!" Let's just call it a draw and we could all vote Mike as the winner !!! :-)

There is no doubt that many things you found impressive about me ...My sense of humor for sure !!! My luck in finding such a great wife !!! My naive thinking of the value of candle wax !!! - well maybe the impressive thoughts left at this point ...

But as I recall you were impressed by my observation powers at the time you donated a tuning machuine to the race team at Lake Placid and they in turn made a gift of Rossignol skis to you. You had sent me a picture of the skis in your car and I noted the Rossi symbol which you seem to find impressed that I could see. But now how does this all tie togethern now??? Hmmmmmm????? What 5 numbers would Pavel think this important and this magical ???

I realized from the outset of this quizz that the winner would be the one who was able to think most like you So I will take some time and review the posts, while thinking like Pavel. Then I will again load the shotgun and blast another answer out for all to see. Unless the others beat me to it.

Get ready for another reply from me!!!

Mike :!: :wink:

And one more reply before I try to dream another (but short) answer ...

Pavel says to think like him. And the way he thinks is in a way for which he can prepare for the unexpected. He once told me a story of a young boy who watched the elders go out hunting. Being young and lacking hunting skills, the boy had to say behind; but one day he went off on his own - and failed at his hunt. He failed because he wasn't prepared properly.

Pavel likewise prepares mindfully for what lies ahead and hopes to be prepared for the unknown - it is a matter of survival !! He puts himself in the position of keeping a watchful eye and has a ready course of action. He is a rather amazing guy !!! Really !!!

But how to turn this into numbers that are magical and all this important. ?? A difficult question. He once pointed out the importance of planning for future needs to me. And the signifiigance of the tree. And he says the three of us are rounding the tree! Another "hidden" clue? Just as the letter was "hidden' in the house? I wonder. And "its all about the skis"! And just how will these numbers save all this money? More questions than answers I guess.

This is deep but likely very plain to see..

So when we assess our needs and plan for the future when it comes to buying skis for the best deal we look to April for the purchase - the down season when the suppliers are trying to sell off stock. Here we will save money!

4 = April


If we assess our abilities and the terrain in which we hope to ski we can find the ski that works the best for us and produce the "performance" of a highly powered car. Here we select the size specifications of the ski. Even the pitch of the terrain has a bearing on ski length.

11 @ 165 for example (since we have Mutix on the brain) 11 being the turning radius in meters and 165 being the ski length in cm.



If we select our skis for the conditions we expect to find at the ski hill we will not be suprised and caught un-prepared. Lets suppose we are going a great distance and could find icy conditions, powder conditions, hard packed conditions or a mixture. We want to be ready for the unexpected!!

3 = The number of skis we would like to have to suit a variety of conditions. Pavel has been known to prepare 10 pairs of skis for family ski outings to Sunday River - but you didn't hear this from me!


For peace of mind in the event of stolen .. or let's say ... misplaced skis, recording the serial number of our skis might help make the recovery possibly.

0001264538 = a serial number on the ski (we would keep this number with us as well as in other safe places).



The number which would help make the skiing experience more pleasant is knowing we have our ski de-tuned properly. This will prevent catching an edge resulting in a potential nasty fall.

5 = the distance from tip and tail we detune the skis in cms and remove any burrs.


And now I'm off to dream of how Pavel would answer this quizz since he says he knows the answer!!!

Mike :wink:

Well I'm completely baffled by it all.

I'm off to Cornwall for a couple of days and I expect all this cleared up by the time I get back!

ellistine wrote:Well I'm completely baffled by it all.

I'm off to Cornwall for a couple of days and I expect all this cleared up by the time I get back!

But, Ellistine .... they must have internet connections in Cornwall. When you relax a bit I bet the numbers will just "float" into your mind. This has been so much fun and challenging at the same time. That bring up another "f-index" number - the float index indicating how well a given ski profile will "float" over the snow. It is a relative number based on a standard (which I would have to look up) but for my Head Big Easy skis with a 12.4@160 the f-index is 122. As I recall (correctly or not - not sure) there is a certain ski designated as the industry standard and this ski's base area is 122% of the standard. Something along this line, I believe.

Now gentlemen, my wife, Judy, has always been enchanted by the Pavel Quizz and has on occasion also provided a "respect"ful answer regarding how a woman wants her man to "listen". With this quizz she has asked me to offer an answer on her behalf - and I always "listen" to my wife's wishes.

Judy suggests the numbers relating to a happy, safe, and money saving ski venture are:

555-6789; a home phone number when needing assistance (emergency or otherwise

235-765-008; government health card number for an unexpected visit to the ER room with a ski related injury

ABF-409; Your car liscence plate number for easy finding of the car by ski hill officials after you have been whisked to the ER room. (She seems to have a expectation of injury !!)

*** *** ** *** Bank Card number (Sorry the actual digits are her secret) just in case she needs unexpected finances while out of commission.


623-887-6-3425; Private health Card Number - so that any hospital care the government won't cover her private insurance might. She needs her comforts!

Now you see why my first reply included the time for lunch and warming by the lodge fire ... Judy like's her comforts.

Mike :wink: