What a duo you two would make on ski hill!
Ellistine, Mike was yu three years ago.
Imagine he asked me if he could use candle wax for skis!!! I quickly realized he needed reason help, so I began an in-service training of this "new" skier!
Great man! Nice and kind!
There are some rumors about his skiing!!!!
Now back to quiz!
You must give figures AND their meaning!
Not just 548 or 64.7
Sleep on it tonight!
Just five figures for a new pair of Mutix 165 cm skis.
Five figures you will never ever forget!
Five figures that launch you to the 95 percentile ranking!
Dream on!
Magic Numbers all skiers should know!
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Ellistine ... you are learning all about the Pavel Springtime Quiz !!! You are also learning how Pavel gets his jollies during the off season (aka the non snowy part of the ski season...). He lives quite a distance from me but if I llisten closely I can hear him laughing with joy at our frustration... (but only in a good way - of course).
Part of the quizz is keeping us confused; we each have given some careful thought and made our best stabs but we don't know how close nor how far off the mark we are. And then Pavel - the Quizmaster dangles those great Rossignol skis at us just to keep us going. He's a person with a ture knowledge of mankind!!
I have to put on one of our ballroom dance events tonight so I'll be thinking about numbers as I play disc #16 - track 2 ... This happens to be the Boyzone tune - "No Matter What" which we play as a rumba.
Mike
Isn't this great fun !!!
Ahhh the plea for another hint !!! Pavel has seen this before too!
Actually I could use one of those as well.
But this time I haven't YET reverted to the internet for help. Ellistine, there was one quizz that I thought all I needed to do was search the net. HA ! That didn't help at all. Can you see what I mean? Your answers look perfect and my attempt at another approach didn't come close either. So where do we go from here???
Hang in there, these Mutix skis are something else and at 165 should turn like a hot knife in soft butter!
Mike :wink:
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Started by Pavelski in Ski Chatter 16-May-2007 - 159 Replies
Pavelski
reply to 'Magic Numbers all skiers should know!' posted May-2007
Ellistine
reply to 'Magic Numbers all skiers should know!' posted May-2007
This is starting to annoy me now! The cat woke me up at 4:30am this morning and I never made it back to sleep once I started thinking about the 5 bloomin magic numbers.
I can think of five meaningful numbers but I don't think any of them are of the 'ski feel' - 'Use the force Luke' enlightenment that Pavel is refering to :D .
My 5 are;
Ski Length = 164cm
Am I new to sking and therefore think that extra ski length is just more to have to turn or have I 'seen a few pistes in my time' and think that skis under 190cm are what 12 year old boys ski on. More accuratety, am I Georgio Rocca or Michael Walchoffer.
Radius = 12.2m
This, according to who you speak to, is either the skis natural turning radius or the radius of the Arc of the side cut. I personaly think it's the latter although interestingly (depending on what you find interesting!) the Rossi Mutix quote 2 radius depending on which stiffeners are attached but obviously without the sidecut or length changing.
Width = 122mm/65mm/101mm
The Width of the ski measured at the Tip, middle and the tail. These figures define the shape of the sidecut and hence it's radius or turning ability. You can also play trumps with them - "Tip measurement 122mm - damn you beat me, mines 120mm" etc.
Edge Bevel Angle = 1.5 (soon to be 3) degrees.
Do I want Bridgestone Potenza levels of g-force inducing grip or more of a 'Driving Miss Daisy' whitewall affair with plenty of slide.
DIN Settings = 6.5
Have I been enjoying my pies too much, am I likely to 'drop in' of a 100ft cliff, how much do I value my knees, how much is it going to hurt if my skis suddenly pop off. Crucial safety settings for your bindings to help to make sure you are never the first onto the plane home (in the wheelchair).
Like I said, I think I'm missing Pavels magic number. None of these will save me money. It's probably something to do with the VFM (Value for Money) ie knowing that this years ski is the same as last years ski but with the new 'that's like, soo cool dude' graphics.
I can think of five meaningful numbers but I don't think any of them are of the 'ski feel' - 'Use the force Luke' enlightenment that Pavel is refering to :D .
My 5 are;
Ski Length = 164cm
Am I new to sking and therefore think that extra ski length is just more to have to turn or have I 'seen a few pistes in my time' and think that skis under 190cm are what 12 year old boys ski on. More accuratety, am I Georgio Rocca or Michael Walchoffer.
Radius = 12.2m
This, according to who you speak to, is either the skis natural turning radius or the radius of the Arc of the side cut. I personaly think it's the latter although interestingly (depending on what you find interesting!) the Rossi Mutix quote 2 radius depending on which stiffeners are attached but obviously without the sidecut or length changing.
Width = 122mm/65mm/101mm
The Width of the ski measured at the Tip, middle and the tail. These figures define the shape of the sidecut and hence it's radius or turning ability. You can also play trumps with them - "Tip measurement 122mm - damn you beat me, mines 120mm" etc.
Edge Bevel Angle = 1.5 (soon to be 3) degrees.
Do I want Bridgestone Potenza levels of g-force inducing grip or more of a 'Driving Miss Daisy' whitewall affair with plenty of slide.
DIN Settings = 6.5
Have I been enjoying my pies too much, am I likely to 'drop in' of a 100ft cliff, how much do I value my knees, how much is it going to hurt if my skis suddenly pop off. Crucial safety settings for your bindings to help to make sure you are never the first onto the plane home (in the wheelchair).
Like I said, I think I'm missing Pavels magic number. None of these will save me money. It's probably something to do with the VFM (Value for Money) ie knowing that this years ski is the same as last years ski but with the new 'that's like, soo cool dude' graphics.
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Mike from NS
reply to 'Magic Numbers all skiers should know!' posted May-2007
Ellistine;
I can see exactly what Pavel meant when he said you art like I was a few years ago. The sleepless nights during the Pavel Springtime Quizz period, the frustratioin in puzzlement of what he is after, the obvious answers which don't seem to be correct, and above all your justification and explaination of the answers in hopes that Pavel will see the wisdom in the answer and amend his own answer to bring acceptance of yours. Been there - done that!!! Oh ... what fun !!!
One reply I offered for a quizz question even brought Pavel's wife to his computer room at home ... to see what was so funny. I think your reply may have done the same today.
I too have given more thought to the answers for the 2007 Quizz. It has been so long since I've studied statistical probabilty and Gaussian distributions that it would take deeper thought than I could muster to delve into the deep hint burried there. But the hint that tells me much is that of not letting someone on the lift without knowledge of these numbers. Therefore along with all the obvious answers of ski costs and specifications there are 10 numbers which are very important as issued by the Canadian Ski Patrol and of these 10 numbers I find it difficult to single out the most important 5. These of course the 10 points of the Alpine Code of Responsibility. So the gun is loaded and my finger on the trigger.
BANG !
By being mindful and following these code items we will save a lot of money and enjoy skiing even more. We will be safe and able to return for another day of the great activity of skiing.
Therefore....
#1. Always stay in control and be able to stop or avoid other people and objects. (money saved !)
#2 People ahead of you have the right away - its your responsibility to avoid them (In broad terms #1 says the same thing.)
#3 You must not stop where you obstruct a trail or where not visible from above. (more money saved and safe too.)
#4 Whenever starting downhill or merginging into a trail, look uphill and yield to others. (Safe and wise actions always save money!)
#5 If involved in (or whitness) a collision - stay put and speak with Ski Patrol.
#6 Always use proper devices to prevent runaway equipment. (Now tell me that doesn't save money and potentially other accidents.)
#7 Observe posted signs and warnings.
#8 Keep off closed trails and out of closed areas. (There is good reasoning here but where's the fun in that?)
#9 You must not use lifts of terrain if your ability is impaired through use of alcohol or drugs. (Just like driving or operating machinery - it just isn't a good idea...)
#10. Prior to using any lift, you must have the knowledge and ability to load and ride, and unload safely.
So of these 10 numbers, I think #'s 1, 3, 4, 6 and 9 are the 5 most important. The other 5 are hopefully common sense and common courtesy which society should expect from others. These are no doubt important but to meet what I think is Pavel's intent here the ones I mentioned seem more fitting to me. .... as I sprial out into space !!!
Mike
I can see exactly what Pavel meant when he said you art like I was a few years ago. The sleepless nights during the Pavel Springtime Quizz period, the frustratioin in puzzlement of what he is after, the obvious answers which don't seem to be correct, and above all your justification and explaination of the answers in hopes that Pavel will see the wisdom in the answer and amend his own answer to bring acceptance of yours. Been there - done that!!! Oh ... what fun !!!
One reply I offered for a quizz question even brought Pavel's wife to his computer room at home ... to see what was so funny. I think your reply may have done the same today.
I too have given more thought to the answers for the 2007 Quizz. It has been so long since I've studied statistical probabilty and Gaussian distributions that it would take deeper thought than I could muster to delve into the deep hint burried there. But the hint that tells me much is that of not letting someone on the lift without knowledge of these numbers. Therefore along with all the obvious answers of ski costs and specifications there are 10 numbers which are very important as issued by the Canadian Ski Patrol and of these 10 numbers I find it difficult to single out the most important 5. These of course the 10 points of the Alpine Code of Responsibility. So the gun is loaded and my finger on the trigger.
BANG !
By being mindful and following these code items we will save a lot of money and enjoy skiing even more. We will be safe and able to return for another day of the great activity of skiing.
Therefore....
#1. Always stay in control and be able to stop or avoid other people and objects. (money saved !)
#2 People ahead of you have the right away - its your responsibility to avoid them (In broad terms #1 says the same thing.)
#3 You must not stop where you obstruct a trail or where not visible from above. (more money saved and safe too.)
#4 Whenever starting downhill or merginging into a trail, look uphill and yield to others. (Safe and wise actions always save money!)
#5 If involved in (or whitness) a collision - stay put and speak with Ski Patrol.
#6 Always use proper devices to prevent runaway equipment. (Now tell me that doesn't save money and potentially other accidents.)
#7 Observe posted signs and warnings.
#8 Keep off closed trails and out of closed areas. (There is good reasoning here but where's the fun in that?)
#9 You must not use lifts of terrain if your ability is impaired through use of alcohol or drugs. (Just like driving or operating machinery - it just isn't a good idea...)
#10. Prior to using any lift, you must have the knowledge and ability to load and ride, and unload safely.
So of these 10 numbers, I think #'s 1, 3, 4, 6 and 9 are the 5 most important. The other 5 are hopefully common sense and common courtesy which society should expect from others. These are no doubt important but to meet what I think is Pavel's intent here the ones I mentioned seem more fitting to me. .... as I sprial out into space !!!
Mike
Age is but a number.
Pavelski
reply to 'Magic Numbers all skiers should know!' posted May-2007
Now here is a dangerous couple Mike and Ellistine. You could ask all the "dangerous" questions.
As far as quiz , you must give numbers AND what they mean in order to win the skis.
Ho sleepless nights Mike!!!
Ho how great those Rossis Mutix would feel in the alps Ellistine!
You can do it just think!!!!!
Pavel
As far as quiz , you must give numbers AND what they mean in order to win the skis.
Ho sleepless nights Mike!!!
Ho how great those Rossis Mutix would feel in the alps Ellistine!
You can do it just think!!!!!
Pavel
Ellistine
reply to 'Magic Numbers all skiers should know!' posted May-2007
Do I have any of them right?
Mike from NS
reply to 'Magic Numbers all skiers should know!' posted May-2007
ellistine wrote:Do I have any of them right?
Ellistine ... you are learning all about the Pavel Springtime Quiz !!! You are also learning how Pavel gets his jollies during the off season (aka the non snowy part of the ski season...). He lives quite a distance from me but if I llisten closely I can hear him laughing with joy at our frustration... (but only in a good way - of course).
Part of the quizz is keeping us confused; we each have given some careful thought and made our best stabs but we don't know how close nor how far off the mark we are. And then Pavel - the Quizmaster dangles those great Rossignol skis at us just to keep us going. He's a person with a ture knowledge of mankind!!
I have to put on one of our ballroom dance events tonight so I'll be thinking about numbers as I play disc #16 - track 2 ... This happens to be the Boyzone tune - "No Matter What" which we play as a rumba.
Mike
Isn't this great fun !!!
Age is but a number.
Ellistine
reply to 'Magic Numbers all skiers should know!' posted May-2007
Time for a new approach!
As a Brit, time spent amongst the skiing fraternity is extremely limited. In fact I have only ever had a grand total of 31 days of skiing on snow without a roof on it.
Because of this, help is very often needed to learn the finer details of this magical sport.
Pavel - I need Help :roll:
From a fellow Commonwealther - what ever that's supposed to mean.
As a Brit, time spent amongst the skiing fraternity is extremely limited. In fact I have only ever had a grand total of 31 days of skiing on snow without a roof on it.
Because of this, help is very often needed to learn the finer details of this magical sport.
Pavel - I need Help :roll:
From a fellow Commonwealther - what ever that's supposed to mean.
Mike from NS
reply to 'Magic Numbers all skiers should know!' posted May-2007
ellistine wrote:Time for a new approach!
As a Brit, time spent amongst the skiing fraternity is extremely limited. In fact I have only ever had a grand total of 31 days of skiing on snow without a roof on it.
Because of this, help is very often needed to learn the finer details of this magical sport.
Pavel - I need Help :roll:
From a fellow Commonwealther - what ever that's supposed to mean.
Ahhh the plea for another hint !!! Pavel has seen this before too!
Actually I could use one of those as well.
But this time I haven't YET reverted to the internet for help. Ellistine, there was one quizz that I thought all I needed to do was search the net. HA ! That didn't help at all. Can you see what I mean? Your answers look perfect and my attempt at another approach didn't come close either. So where do we go from here???
Hang in there, these Mutix skis are something else and at 165 should turn like a hot knife in soft butter!
Mike :wink:
Age is but a number.
Topic last updated on 07-June-2007 at 21:52