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Started by Pavelski in Ski Chatter - 94 Replies

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Tony_H
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posted Aug-2011

Ian Wickham wrote:Dry off your skis before taking them home and then run some wax down each of the edges, hey presto no rust.
I do that already. They still get some rust.
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OldAndy
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posted Aug-2011

Tony_H wrote:
Ian Wickham wrote:Dry off your skis before taking them home and then run some wax down each of the edges, hey presto no rust.
I do that already. They still get some rust.

Rent skis and let some other b****r do the rust prevention !!
:thumbup:
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Trencher
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posted Aug-2011

OldAndy wrote:
Rent skis and let some other b****r do the rust prevention !!
:thumbup:


Not often you hear rental skis and rust prevention in the same sentence :wink:
because I'm so inclined .....

Pavelski
reply to 'The Never List'
posted Aug-2011

OldAndy has missed the point.

Yes of course renting (hiring) skis and rust do not come together often!

OldAndy,
I never hire skis because;
never have top of the line skis for hire
never tuned correctly for me
I never wait in line for hire
I am on the hill before ski shop opens
my skis are never rusty !!!


90% of skis you "hire" are low end, not well tuned, few are bevelled or have a structure base! All have all round ,,all temperature wax which is applied via rollers.Never by irons!

Bindings on "hired" skis have DIN scale too low for my type of skiing!

Finally if you look carefully at most "hired" skis ( by putting them base to base),,you will note that the tips will tend curve apart very much like the modern "rocker" skis! Guess what this does to your skiing?
Why ?

Because many shops give out shorter skis to beginner/intermediate skiers. I often see men who are 6' 2" heavy set ( several several stone or in US 250 lbs) on 160 cm skis! Guess what happens to these skis over time! They bend at tips!

No,,the few seconds in using my rag on the edges is worth the pleasure of having tuned skis!

Finally, Andy,,,,I love to caress my skis to thank them for the pleasure they have given me all day! It is not a chore for me!

But then Andy,,that is just my choice !

Happy skiing!

Pavel

Tony_H
reply to 'The Never List'
posted Aug-2011

OldAndy wrote:
Tony_H wrote:
Ian Wickham wrote:Dry off your skis before taking them home and then run some wax down each of the edges, hey presto no rust.
I do that already. They still get some rust.

Rent skis and let some other b****r do the rust prevention !!
:thumbup:
Now why on earth would I want to do that?
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Bandit
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posted Aug-2011

pavelski wrote:

Finally if you look carefully at most "hired" skis ( by putting them base to base),,you will note that the tips will tend curve apart very much like the modern "rocker" skis!
Why ?



Because ski shops have been renting out skis with rocker for all levels, during the last year or two?

Pavelski
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posted Aug-2011

Sorry Bandit, I should have been more precise.

I was referring to to "ordinary" shaped skis in the 2010 circa!
Of course rockers are available,,but these have designed tips and tails that are curved upward at both ends and are for persons who know how to ski in soft powder conditions!

There is now a "discussion" among skiers in my area about the impact of rockers on hard well groomed slopes! Some say there will be a increase of accidents since again the effective ski edge available to skier is smaller! Time will tell!

If you look at rentals ( or skis for hire) then ,,by February tips begin to curve upward at 10-20 cm from tips,,due to "heavy use" and skiers that often are too heavy for type of ski!

That was my point!

SwingBeep
reply to 'The Never List'
posted Aug-2011

Tony, the rust could be caused by water vapour condensing on the edges due to a drop in temperature during transit. It can easily be removed with a 'Gummi' stone, to prevent it you could, as Ian suggested rub some wax on the edges or cover them with masking tape. Don't worry about the glue blocking the 'pores' because there aren't any!

Pavelski, the skis you saw could have been carving / all mountain skis with early rise shovels
http://www.kaestle-ski.com/en/techcenter/ski-geometry/early-rise/

Topic last updated on 19-September-2011 at 18:11