Clueless

told you I might be talking crap :oops:

bandit wrote:
The longest skis I own at 172cm have the tightest turn arc at 15 metres. The shortest skis I own at 158cm have the longest turn arc at 17.1 metres :D Both pairs have modern sidecuts and the oldest pair date from 2006. There is more to skis than the length!

and in the next few years it will get more complicated, as ski incorperate combination cambers/reverse cambers in a single ski, and klothoid sidecuts. It will be very hit or miss, if you don't understand the technology, and can't demo a bunch of skis.

Trencher

I had to look up Klothoid (clothoid) sidecuts :lol: The concept is hard for me to grasp!

Nice straightforward explanation of sidecuts here..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidecut

All of this simply over complicates what should be a relatviely simple decision based on your ability and physique. Unless you are a pro of course. But for the recreational skier, its starting to get a bit too much.

Went to look at some skis yesterday. Went to 2 shops, the 1st shop a teenager recomended some skis which apparently "ripped the piste up" and "arced like a bi$*h" :shock: and had a "doudy" picture on the ski. :x I left!

The 2nd said Id ski well on the K2 Apache Recon, Head Peak 70, Scott aztec, Salomon tornado Ti all over £400. The best would be K2 Apache and the most expensive at £500 :shock: and they can also do the ironing etc so the bloke in the bloody expensive shop said so it must be right :evil:

So i explained what i wanted and its my 1st ski etc so off he goes and 10 seconds later produces a K2 Apache Sidewinder which is last years ski at £300 with bindings. I ski on a 170 but this ski apparently ticks all my boxes but its a 177. Now i will try and explain his theory about the size, here goes.... The skis where i ski have a rounded tip but the tail is flat but these K2s are rounded at either end so the bloke in the expensive shop says if you cut of the bit (not literally) on the tail which is rounded it would be a 170 :?: wtf!!!!! By this time my heads battered and my other half has bought a bloody helmet :evil:

mfc, the salesman was quite right about the twin tips effect, you will lose ski length as it's turned up and not in the snow.
K2's are a heavy ski, and Recons's would not be my suggestion for a 1st time purchase, but what do I know :lol:

The Sidewinders are a fair price, Nevisport has then with a Marker 12 binding for £315.

http://www.nevisport.com/catdetail-9-catdetail1_id-151-catdetail2_id-552-product_id-811011

Hard work this ski choosing lark innit )

Yes, good job I have got some good people advising me )

bandit wrote:mfc, the salesman was quite right about the twin tips effect, you will lose ski length as it's turned up and not in the snow.
K2's are a heavy ski, and Recons's would not be my suggestion for a 1st time purchase, but what do I know :lol:

The Sidewinders are a fair price, Nevisport has then with a Marker 12 binding for £315.

http://www.nevisport.com/catdetail-9-catdetail1_id-151-catdetail2_id-552-product_id-811011

Hard work this ski choosing lark innit )

So what your saying is if i got K2 skis at 170 they would really be a 163 or 164? I wont be getting the Recons at £500 however my O/ half fell in love with them, weird really she practically purred over them :roll: Even said shed help pay for them.... I feel im going to get shafted for something soon )