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Started by EVO88 in Ski Hardware - 67 Replies

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Bandit
reply to 'Boot Fitters'
posted Oct-2009

Ian Wickham wrote:
bandit wrote:
Ian Wickham wrote:Buy your boots in resort much cheaper 8)


In what way Wickers?

We are talking about European skiing here.


Yep much cheaper than in the UK, shop about in resort and a bargain will be had 8)


Have you seen the exchange rate for the Euro recently?

1 example for you. My boots recently purchased in the UK from my fitter.

UK Price £300
Sport Conrad price €399.95

Of course there are always cheap boots available. Old stock, 2nds, ex-hire boots, returns....

Then again, the $64k question is, How can you tell if they fit? Of course they will feel comfy in the shop, but is the shell the correct shape for your foot? then there are Delta angles, Zeppa angles, boot ramp angles (et al) all of which can make or break it being a good boot for 1 person turning into a fitting nightmare for another.

Edited 1 time. Last update at 30-Oct-2009

Ian Wickham
reply to 'Boot Fitters'
posted Oct-2009

bandit wrote:
Ian Wickham wrote:
bandit wrote:
Ian Wickham wrote:Buy your boots in resort much cheaper 8)


In what way Wickers?

We are talking about European skiing here.


Yep much cheaper than in the UK, shop about in resort and a bargain will be had 8)


Have you seen the exchange rate for the Euro recently?

1 example for you. My boots recently purchased in the UK from my fitter.

UK Price £300
Sport Conrad price €399.95

Of course there are always cheap boots available. Old stock, 2nds, ex-hire boots, returns....

Then again, the $64k question is, How can you tell if they fit? Of course they will feel comfy in the shop, but is the shell the correct shape for your foot? then there are Delta angles, Zeppa angles, boot ramp angles (et al) all of which can make or break it being a good boot for 1 person turning into a fitting nightmare for another.


I suppose I'm just old fashioned.......... I have them fitted in the shop then I tend to ski in them, does the job for me.
I paid €249 for mine and they are great and I've never experienced a fitting nightmare with any boots I have brought abroad, guess I'm just lucky.

Bandit
reply to 'Boot Fitters'
posted Oct-2009

Wickers, you are suggesting that folks buy abroad but €249, does seems not much of a bargain to me. I purchased my last pair of ski boots (Head S8W) in the UK from a major ski/outdoor retail chain, for £150.

Ian Wickham
reply to 'Boot Fitters'
posted Oct-2009

bandit wrote:Wickers, you are suggesting that folks buy abroad but €249, does seems not much of a bargain to me. I purchased my last pair of ski boots (Head S8W) in the UK from a major ski/outdoor retail chain, for £150.


I'm sure there are some good deals about in the UK as there are in Europe, I still do prefer to buy abroad where I can ski in the boot and get the feel for them, with the boots I looked at in the UK they were a lot more expensive then the ones I brought, still the forum is about opinions and people should shop around for their bargains, by the way I would not buy a pair of boots mail order even I'm not that daft.

AllyG
reply to 'Boot Fitters'
posted Oct-2009

I have never bought a pair of boots, I always hire them.

The only pair I've hired that actually made my calves hurt were the first pair of beginner boots I got in Zell am See. And I think I just didn't know enough to realize it was the boots and not me, and take them back.

Maybe I'm just lucky, but since then I've been fine. I know now what they should feel like in the shop and if they're a bit tight or a bit slack I ask them to change the size. I've discovered that ski boots are like shoes and you need a different size for a different type of boot, even though your feet haven't changed size.

Like last week for example, at the Edge to Edge ski and board camp, they carefully measured my feet and they were both about size 26 with ordinary socks on, so they gave me boots of 26 1/2 to try. They were much too tight and I eventually persuaded them to give me boots which were 27 1/2, and they were perfect. And the same thing happened with my daughter's boots - she ended up with the same type of boots a size bigger than her feet.

I have also discovered that it really matters how you treat the boots when you're using them. You need to put them on slack in the morning, for getting up and down stairs and buses etc. and tighten them a bit for the first run, and then make them tighter again for the second run, and then undo them for lunch and wriggle your toes about, slacken them for long gondola rides etc. And finally, at the end of the day, you need to do them up at night so that they keep their shape.

However, I do realize I am probably just lucky that I have feet that don't need wedges etc. in my ski boots.

Ally

Bandit
reply to 'Boot Fitters'
posted Oct-2009

AllyG wrote:I have never bought a pair of boots, I always hire them.

Like last week for example, at the Edge to Edge ski and board camp, they carefully measured my feet and they were both about size 26 with ordinary socks on, so they gave me boots of 26 1/2 to try. They were much too tight and I eventually persuaded them to give me boots which were 27 1/2, and they were perfect. And the same thing happened with my daughter's boots - she ended up with the same type of boots a size bigger than her feet.

I have also discovered that it really matters how you treat the boots when you're using them. You need to put them on slack in the morning, for getting up and down stairs and buses etc. and tighten them a bit for the first run, and then make them tighter again for the second run, and then undo them for lunch and wriggle your toes about, slacken them for long gondola rides etc. And finally, at the end of the day, you need to do them up at night so that they keep their shape.

Ally


The Edge 2 Edge fitters measured you for ski boots that would fit you, and perform, based on measuring your feet. You persuaded them to give you boots what were too large, so I would suggest that all you could feel was the liner. As you were hiring the kit, you handed them back, however if you owned those boots, then after about 5 weeks the liners will settle and your boots would feel way too big, resulting in movement within the boot, causing bruises, black toenails and other nasties.

Boot fitters can generally make space in boot shells for anatomical variation, however it's almost always the case that they are unable to make boots smaller. If you ever buy boots....they WILL feel too small in the shop, it's expected.
Recreational ski boots that fit well, can generally be done up on the 1st run, and undone at the end of the day. Toes should be able to wiggle at all times. Clips should be able to be fastened with a light touch.

On my 1 day recent course at Hemel, all our group skied for around an hour with our boots completely undone.

Ian Wickham
reply to 'Boot Fitters'
posted Oct-2009

AllyG wrote:I have never bought a pair of boots, I always hire them.

The only pair I've hired that actually made my calves hurt were the first pair of beginner boots I got in Zell am See. And I think I just didn't know enough to realize it was the boots and not me, and take them back.

Maybe I'm just lucky, but since then I've been fine. I know now what they should feel like in the shop and if they're a bit tight or a bit slack I ask them to change the size. I've discovered that ski boots are like shoes and you need a different size for a different type of boot, even though your feet haven't changed size.

Like last week for example, at the Edge to Edge ski and board camp, they carefully measured my feet and they were both about size 26 with ordinary socks on, so they gave me boots of 26 1/2 to try. They were much too tight and I eventually persuaded them to give me boots which were 27 1/2, and they were perfect. And the same thing happened with my daughter's boots - she ended up with the same type of boots a size bigger than her feet.

I have also discovered that it really matters how you treat the boots when you're using them. You need to put them on slack in the morning, for getting up and down stairs and buses etc. and tighten them a bit for the first run, and then make them tighter again for the second run, and then undo them for lunch and wriggle your toes about, slacken them for long gondola rides etc. And finally, at the end of the day, you need to do them up at night so that they keep their shape.

However, I do realize I am probably just lucky that I have feet that don't need wedges etc. in my ski boots.

Ally


What I have always done is do my boots up on the clip setting that I always us, usually pretty tight, then leave them, I do not loosen them for lunch, I leave them done up all day it makes it tuff for walking to the bar or loo but it works for me 8)

AllyG
reply to 'Boot Fitters'
posted Oct-2009

Bandit,
You mean, if you buy boots, they are supposed to feel too tight for the first 5 weeks of ski-ing until they settle? In that case, if I only ski for one week per year, they'd hurt for five years :shock:

I think it's probably just as well I only hire boots each time, it seems to be a very complex issue, and totally beyond me.

Ally

Topic last updated on 04-November-2009 at 15:47