What skis are right for me?

bandit wrote:Trencher, I dunno about Ian, but I have seen hundreds of skiers laying rails on skinnies over the years. Some of them, I have had the honour of chasing as a student :D

Show me a photo please. I want to see it.

Trencher

Trencher wrote:

Ian Wickham wrote:Here we go I am going to have my two pennies worth, I would think straight skis should be able to carve as it not just down to the ski but the skill of the skier, the side cut on skis today just surly take carving to the next level. :D

Ian, have you ever really seen a skier on on old skinny skis actually carving ?

Trencher

Sorry Trencher, I have to agree with El bandido, I have seen skiers carving on straights and still do, the straights can't do what the carvers can but they can still carve. 8)

Ian Wickham wrote:
Sorry Trencher, I have to agree with El bandido, I have seen skiers carving on straights and still do, the straights can't do what the carvers can but they can still carve. 8)

Ditto, I can't see what the problem is, it's simply a question of whether you can flex the ski. Without much flex the arc would be huge and slightly impractical but with enough pressure you could shorten that.

Trencher wrote:

There's what people used to call carving and then there is actually carving. A lot of people still don't seem to know the difference. Very few people can carve reasonably tight turns on skis with sidecuts over 21M yet alone the 35M plus sidecuts of years go. You must be one of those few bandit.

Trencher

The definition of a carved turn as I have always understood it is where every single point along the edge of the ski passes through a single point in the snow.
With the required technique this can be done on any ski that has the slightest 'shape' . Straight skis, as you call them, were not completely straight.
The turn radius will vary depending on the ski but a carve is not defined by the radius of the turn.

ise wrote:

Ian Wickham wrote:
Sorry Trencher, I have to agree with El bandido, I have seen skiers carving on straights and still do, the straights can't do what the carvers can but they can still carve. 8)

Ditto, I can't see what the problem is, it's simply a question of whether you can flex the ski. Without much flex the arc would be huge and slightly impractical but with enough pressure you could shorten that.

Strange that all these people who carved for years on straight skis, don't have a single photo to show for it and was there no film taken of this common feat of skiing ?

I can see it now, on this weeks "mysteries of the world" documentary, the Yeti, the Loch Ness monster and carving on old school skis :lol:

Trencher

Trencher wrote:

Strange that all these people who carved for years on straight skis, don't have a single photo to show for it and was there no film taken of this common feat of skiing ?

I can see it now, on this weeks "mysteries of the world" documentary, the Yeti, the Loch Ness monster and carving on old school skis :lol:

Trencher

I think that you have a very narrow view of what carving is, Trencher.
Nothing wrong with that, but it results in people disagreeing with you )
In my opinion, carving is what the ski does, not what the skier does. There are many ways to get the ski to carve (body position wise) and many ways to balance on the ski while it carves.
So if someones body shape/position doesn't conform to what you see as carving then its not carving :D

Trencher wrote:

ise wrote:

Ian Wickham wrote:
Sorry Trencher, I have to agree with El bandido, I have seen skiers carving on straights and still do, the straights can't do what the carvers can but they can still carve. 8)

Ditto, I can't see what the problem is, it's simply a question of whether you can flex the ski. Without much flex the arc would be huge and slightly impractical but with enough pressure you could shorten that.

Strange that all these people who carved for years on straight skis, don't have a single photo to show for it and was there no film taken of this common feat of skiing ?

I can see it now, on this weeks "mysteries of the world" documentary, the Yeti, the Loch Ness monster and carving on old school skis :lol:

Trencher

It's the days before Youtube and digital cameras, there's no doubt material but I can't be bothered to hunt around for something just because you demand it because it won't make a blind bit of difference to you. People could and did carve with older skis, it's a fact as you know, so I don't even understand why we're supposed to be providing proof unless you're really saying it's impossible?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtB5SW7HYyY&feature=related

Try telling Kaiser he is not carving...