Tignes October 2010

Thanks Snowbandit :D

We did have a really good time, and it was well worth the money and the effort involved in getting there. If anyone else wants to go, Mountain Sun also do 6 day breaks - it's not just the 3 day ones, and in general they seem very flexible.

Here are the Scott Rosa's:
http://www.revolutionz.co.uk/product/Ski-Hardware/Skis/Touring-and-Telemark/SCOTT/ROSA/-14247

They cost £534 as a package with them, so they're not cheap skis. I did see something that said they were designed to be 40% used on the piste and 60% off the piste.

My daughter was ski-ing on the Scott Maya's, which didn't seem to annoy her at all. They have a waist of only 76mm and a turning radius of 13m as compared to the Rosa's of 14.7m. Ellis Brigham are selling the Maya's, as an All Mountain ski, at £450 for the package:
http://www.ellis-brigham.com/skis/scott/700046/maya-%2b-tyrolia-peak-11

I couldn't find the Rosa's on the Ellis Brigham site, so maybe they're not selling them.

I forgot to say that my new boots worked very well. I reckon that the expensive 'squishy pebble' I have in my right boot to correct my stance is working, because I can turn equally well left and right now. I am going to add a bit to my buying boots thread on it.

Ally

Ah yes, the Maya, probably the ones you should have skied on Ali. Much more like the Neos and Aztecs, and narrower underfoot. I have no problem getting the Neos on edge, but then I have been told I am a strong skier so maybe that has something to do with it.

In the end, I couldnt get anyone to go with me to Tignes as the only dates they had left were NEXT WEEKEND and no one i know could either take time off at short notice or had the holiday left at this time of year to do it, and I wasnt going to go alone.
I also decided that rather than spending £300 roughly on 3 days skiing on limited amounts of mountain, I will spend that kind of money on a late deal at the end of the season for a week in a big area.
Result, in the end, I think personally.

Glad you enjoyed it Ally, but maybe you should have switched skis instead of moaning about the ones you rented for the duration????

Tony (and everyone else),
I wasn't moaning about the Rosa's while I was using them (well not much anyway!) because I was too busy ski-ing. But I thought others might be interested in what I thought of them, which is why I posted my comments up.

It seems they are double ended so that one can ski backwards on them, but as I said earlier this is irritating because it makes it hard to stack them and carry them by resting them on the steps going up to the gondola etc. And I found the extra width made them harder to carry and to turn on their edges when ski-ing.

The Maya's are thinner and aren't double ended, so unless anyone is planning on ski-ing in deep powder and /or ski-ing backwards, then I reckon the Maya is a better ski than the Rosa.

Last Feb I hired K2 T-nines, which are supposed to be very good. I could ski on them okay, but I found them very slow, and it wasn't just me either, because my daughter had them as well, and a French girl in our ski class, and we were all slower than everyone else at schussing etc.

It will be interesting to see what they give me in Feb. I do seem to have become a lot more fussy lately :wink:

Ally

"Double ended"
I love it

AllyG, you said the Rosa's vibrated when you schussed, were your skis flat to the snow?

Bandit,
As far as I know, yes my skis were flat to the snow.

Schussing is something I'm usually very good at - I can generally overtake everyone in my lesson group - and last holiday my instructor said he thought my skis must be very flat to the snow. Of course, my special insoles might be upsetting the situation. I won't really know until I try it with another pair of skis. The conditions were also a bit 'lumpy'.

All I know is that I haven't had that unpleasant feeling of my skis vibrating before, when I'm travelling at speed.

Tony, I'm glad you like my expression 'double ended' skis. I think it's much clearer than 'twin tips', and in any case I don't think the Rosa's are classified as twin tips because the ends don't curl as much the fronts. Presumably with true twin tips one could actually mount the bindings the other way around and never know the difference, apart from the fact that the writing and pictures on the skis would be upside down.

Ally

AllyG, modern skis with a significant sidecut such as the Rosa, are built to turn all the time. By running them straight at speed whilst flat to the snow you are making the ski unstable, this is not what it was designed for, so I'm not surprised they vibrated. When using a tight turning ski it's normal to keep the skis slightly on edge when you want to go straight.

AllyG wrote:
Bandit,
As far as I know, yes my skis were flat to the snow.

Schussing is something I'm usually very good at - I can generally overtake everyone in my lesson group - and last holiday my instructor said he thought my skis must be very flat to the snow.

Pity you can't go back and test out my view vs your Instructor's. Of course, as I'm not a mountain professional my view can be considered amateur and dodgy at best. Ski's used to be able to run flat and stay stable, but that was in the days of much longer skis. )

Really Bandit? :shock:

How surprising!

How do you mean, keep them on edge? Do you mean, keep them both slightly turned in, like in a snowplough? Is this because they are both trying to carve away from me? I managed to keep them both straight, only they vibrated. How strange, to have skis built now so that they won't run in a straight line when they're flat.

Ally