Mayrhofen Scavenger Hunt...

ise wrote:

skidaddle wrote:

I am getting it, Ise, loud and particularly clear.

55 dgrees is obviously my estimate - I haven't measured it for pity's sake.

Good grief.

You're still not getting it, it's not 55 degrees, it really, really, really isn't. You're not even close.

Do you know what a 55 degree slope looks like? Instead of just getting wound up and replying, think about it.

For the trigonometry lesson - no charge )

Like i said, 55 degrees is my ESTIMATE of the STEEPEST part - average will of course be condiderably less than that.

Harakiri - 78 degrees.
Trig lesson (not needed, but thanks anyway) - no charge.
Banter on this forum - PRICELESS.

skidaddle wrote:

Harakiri - 78 degrees.
Trig lesson (not needed, but thanks anyway) - no charge.
Banter on this forum - PRICELESS.

It's not 78 degrees. You really, really need that trig' lesson.

I agree, it's priceless though.

Do we have another contestant who can explain why not to Tony and skidaddle before they dig in any deeper?

skidaddle wrote:

Like i said, 55 degrees is my ESTIMATE of the STEEPEST part - average will of course be condiderably less than that.

Harakiri - 78 degrees.
Trig lesson (not needed, but thanks anyway) - no charge.
Banter on this forum - PRICELESS.

Pardon me, but the wording required is 78% not 78 degrees. I think maybe thats Ise's point, although maybe he could have pointed that out at the outset.

freedapeople wrote:The HK is pretty hairy, 72 degrees or sommit.

Ise, please refer to the person who originally claimed the steepness of the slope was 72 degrees "or sommit". I think you will find thats where the confusion started.

ise wrote:

skidaddle wrote:

Harakiri - 78 degrees.
Trig lesson (not needed, but thanks anyway) - no charge.
Banter on this forum - PRICELESS.

It's not 78 degrees. You really, really need that trig' lesson.

I agree, it's priceless though.

Do we have another contestant who can explain why not to Tony and skidaddle before they dig in any deeper?

You really, really should check the previos posts, as you're in danger of making something out of nothing.

Tell you what, when I go to Mayrhofen in December I'll ask some people who may be able to give us the answer as to the steepness of the bloody thing.

Then you can argue the toss with them as well!

Tony_H wrote:

skidaddle wrote:

Like i said, 55 degrees is my ESTIMATE of the STEEPEST part - average will of course be condiderably less than that.

Harakiri - 78 degrees.
Trig lesson (not needed, but thanks anyway) - no charge.
Banter on this forum - PRICELESS.

Pardon me, but the wording required is 78% not 78 degrees. I think maybe thats Ise's point, although maybe he could have pointed that out at the outset.

why? this was much funnier.

That trig lesson is as follows (apologies as I can't get the symbols on the keyboard)

percentage of slope approximates to tan ( slope in degrees) / 100
degrees (obviously) approximates to tan^-1 ((percentage/100))

That puts the run at 38 degrees which is monstrously steep for a piste. Skiing sustained slopes at 55 degrees is massively high standard of skiing.

All of which proves putting a sign at the top with 78% on it is a waste of time, they should just put a skull and crossbones with "it's steep" in 4 or 5 languages and be done with it )

Quiet at the back please, who threw the paper-plane?

Plenty of people confuse grade with degrees, and almost all of us over-estimate the real steepness of the slopes we're on.

The official site, linked by Tony, states the Harakiri to have an average incline of 78 percent.

78 percent is the equivalent of a little under 40 degrees.

A 100 percent slope is 45 degrees - which, surprisingly, is well on the way to being un-skiable by any but the most expert skiers.

[edited - ise beat me to it]

There is indeed such a sign there.

For what its worth, only one small section is genuinely steep, the rest is not. It just so happens that on the chair ride up you can't see the steep bit and this catches a lot of people out.