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Jan I Stenmark wrote:4. The salinity induced circulation of the warm waters from the Gulf to Northern Europe slows or stops

Jan I Stenmark wrote:Can anyone else recall a prediction that I heard about this issue. I’m no meteorologist and may not get this quite right but hopefully someone will fill in the gaps.

The prediction went as follows:
1. Temperature rises
2. Arctic polar ice melts
3. Northern North Atlantic becomes less salty
4. The salinity induced circulation of the warm waters from the Gulf to Northern Europe slows or stops.
5. Northern Europe becomes substantially colder than at present. More like BC, Ontario or Quebec.
6. Winter sport enters an era of unprecedented demand due to an 8 month season and perfect snow on a daily basis (Ok, I made that bit up)

So can any one corroborate this memory? If so it could well be that warm for the globe would mean cooler for Northern Europe. Not sure what the impact would be on The States & Canada?

Happy pondering

Jan

ise wrote:The salt content, IIRC, is effected by evaporation as these flows move, so the present effect is to increase salinity, consequently without the flow salinity would decrease

ellistine wrote:

ise wrote:The salt content, IIRC, is effected by evaporation as these flows move, so the present effect is to increase salinity, consequently without the flow salinity would decrease

I think there is also a concern that the amounts of fresh water currently locked in the ice caps could have a large effect on the salinty of the oceans should they melt. The 'ligher' fresh water pouring in from the melting ice caps is less likely to sink as fast as the cold salt water causing a slowing effect of the ocean currents.

Edited: Just re-read Jans thread - I think he was refering to this.

bandit wrote:

freezywater wrote:what I still can't work out is if a 4x4 is less environmentally friendly than say a Toyota Prius, does the extra money we'll have to stump up for road tax stop global warming or increase the size of the treasury :?:

Our household had a Toyota Prius on extended test this year. The much heralded, environmentally friendly electric motor was over ridden by the petrol engine if we had the aircon switched on when starting up. The petrol engine also started up if doing more than walking pace. The batteries contained with in the car are very environmentally unfriendly, road handling was plain awful...I could go on, you get the idea :shock:

My 4x4 does more mpg than say either a Chrysler Voyager or Renault Espace...go figure :wink:

ise wrote:
As it happens I have been on a mountain for the last few days in temperatures of minus 20 analysing snow pack stability and doing some snow study.

freezywater wrote:

ise wrote:
As it happens I have been on a mountain for the last few days in temperatures of minus 20 analysing snow pack stability and doing some snow study.

Lucky sod :lol:

bandit wrote:
I think the poor lad probably froze his wotsits off. It was a bit parky to be standing around checking snow in avalanche pits!