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Snowb4ndit,
No-one really knows if King Arthur was real, or mythical. I went to a lecture about him, once, and his Welsh connections. Sir Gawain is supposed to be buried in a village not far from here, under his Welsh name, of Gwalchmai.

The King Arthur that we generally read about, was probably made up by Geoffrey of Monmouth, who seems to have created his ancestry etc. without any real evidence. But the oral traditions about Arthur go back a very long way. And one of the earliest written accounts of the Arthurian legends are in the Welsh Mabinogion stories. Unfortunately, no-one has been able to accurately date these stories, except to say that they are of a very early date.

I think most Arthurian historians agree that he was probably a warrior prince living during the post Roman era, fighting the Saxon invaders.

As to whether he was Cornish or Welsh - I don't think there was much difference at the time, and in any case no-one really knows. As I understand it, Britain wasn't divided the way it is now, and they used the Irish sea as a roadway (because it was easier than travelling through the forests and marshes etc.). So, the Welsh, Irish, and Cornish peoples were all closely related to each other.

Their ancient languages are also said to be related to each other (and Breton I believe). The Welsh language is generally acknowledged to be the oldest surviving language in Europe, (and my poor kids have had to learn it at school!).

I think the red dragon was a symbol of the ancient Welsh people's fight against the invading Saxons.

Arthurian legend is a most interesting, but very complex subject, concerning which I know very little.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A533341

Ally

I thought pasties were cornish

Tony_H wrote:I thought pasties were cornish

You can't beat a nice Cornish pasty, never heard of a Welsh pasty.

Have you had french pastis?

Tony_H wrote:Have you had french pastis?

Ricard for me mate, love a glass of that MMMmmmm :lol:

It's a shame but they are now owned by Pernod :evil:

You two are going to drive me to start lurking ...

Honestly, here I am worrying about the fact that Irish and Scottish are Goidelic languages, whereas Welsh and Breton are Brythonic, and yet they all seem to be Celtic, and you can't even spell pasty right :wink:

I had never thought of the Welsh flag as being Arthurian before, and yet in a way I suppose it is.

Ally

My Maiden name is very Cornish, in fact it means 'Cornwall', I'm about the same height as a cornish tin miner, and I do like a cornish pasty. I suspect my ancestors came from Cornwall. At least they weren't from Norfolk! :lol: :wink:

snowb4ndit wrote:My Maiden name is very Cornish, in fact it means 'Cornwall', I'm about the same height as a cornish tin miner, and I do like a cornish pasty. I suspect my ancestors came from Cornwall. At least they weren't from Norfolk! :lol: :wink:

Your'e also the size of a cornish pasty :lol: