Ski on a Atomic C11 180 and like it but am lookin gfor a shorter ski to have some fun I ski 30 days a season and am of a reasonable standard but not expert. Have seen a couple of good offers Rossi 9s ti oversize or an Atomic SL 9. I am 6 ft, 85 kilos and was thinking about a 165. Any comments on these skis or alternative suggestions
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Started by Hc in Ski Hardware 21-Feb-2006 - 6 Replies
Hc posted Feb-2006
Trencher
reply to 'Looking for a slalom ski' posted Apr-2006
Fischer Race SC 170. Great free carving ski, able to handle speed. 14M radius for shreding the groom. Medium flex for all conditions.
For all mountain, look at the Atomic Metrons. Less stable at high speeds, but carving machines able to handle powder as well
Trencher
For all mountain, look at the Atomic Metrons. Less stable at high speeds, but carving machines able to handle powder as well
Trencher
because I'm so inclined .....
Pavelski
reply to 'Looking for a slalom ski' posted Sep-2006
The question was...a SL ski!
Pure SL skis are ....like a well tuned violin. If you can play it will give you harmony like you have never had.
The Atomic SL 12 is in a class far above others, but it is not for every skier!
If you do not have mastry of the new ski technique do not get modern SL skis! Any SL ski since they are very very sensitive to fore/aft pressure and will rocket you out of any turn that is not tight and right!
May I suggest a de-tuned SL ( all ski companies have them). 165 cm may be just a tad too short. I have a Rossi Z9 that is very very responsive not a true SL but I would pick it above the Metron ( and I have two Metrons mex and B5)
Pure SL skis are ....like a well tuned violin. If you can play it will give you harmony like you have never had.
The Atomic SL 12 is in a class far above others, but it is not for every skier!
If you do not have mastry of the new ski technique do not get modern SL skis! Any SL ski since they are very very sensitive to fore/aft pressure and will rocket you out of any turn that is not tight and right!
May I suggest a de-tuned SL ( all ski companies have them). 165 cm may be just a tad too short. I have a Rossi Z9 that is very very responsive not a true SL but I would pick it above the Metron ( and I have two Metrons mex and B5)
Skifast
reply to 'Looking for a slalom ski' posted Nov-2006
pavelski is correct - the question is about slalom skis, not hybrids like the SC (though it's an incredible ski). It really depends on your carving ability and to a lesser degree, your price range. You also should consider how forgiving you want your sleds to be. Like pavelski said, the Atomic SL 12 is impressive but it requires you to ski hard and fast at all times - not much fooling around.
I personally own a pair of the Ros 9S you mentioned but the race stock version and I am satisfied. If you can get a good price then I'd say go for it; even the race version is relatively forgiving. Note that the 9S sacrifices a bit of stability as a result - I find that medium turns at high speeds results in alot of chatter. That being said, the atomics - even the 9 - is known for slightly better stability at speeds.
Both good skis - good luck with your choice.
I personally own a pair of the Ros 9S you mentioned but the race stock version and I am satisfied. If you can get a good price then I'd say go for it; even the race version is relatively forgiving. Note that the 9S sacrifices a bit of stability as a result - I find that medium turns at high speeds results in alot of chatter. That being said, the atomics - even the 9 - is known for slightly better stability at speeds.
Both good skis - good luck with your choice.
"Ski now, work later."
Trencher
reply to 'Looking for a slalom ski' posted Nov-2006
"pavelski is correct - the question is about slalom skis, not hybrids like the SC (though it's an incredible ski).
Note that the 9S sacrifices a bit of stability as a result - I find that medium turns at high speeds results in alot of chatter. " Skifast
Yes, I understood the question, but as pavelski already noted I didn't address it directly. I was trying to suggest the Fischer race sc might be more versitile than a competion sl and as requested, fun, ie high speed medium turns w/o chatter. If hc is into hard carving small radius turns. then unless you have race plugs and 50mm risers, a Metron M11 or B5 will out inclinate a skinny waisted sl ski.
Trencher
Note that the 9S sacrifices a bit of stability as a result - I find that medium turns at high speeds results in alot of chatter. " Skifast
Yes, I understood the question, but as pavelski already noted I didn't address it directly. I was trying to suggest the Fischer race sc might be more versitile than a competion sl and as requested, fun, ie high speed medium turns w/o chatter. If hc is into hard carving small radius turns. then unless you have race plugs and 50mm risers, a Metron M11 or B5 will out inclinate a skinny waisted sl ski.
Trencher
because I'm so inclined .....
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Midfielder
reply to 'Looking for a slalom ski' posted Dec-2006
I agree with pavel - if you get a good modern slalom ski you should be carving to get the full benefit from them. Otherwise a lesser ski will do just as well. I would not recommend the Fischer SC if you want a true performance ski. They are fun and carve very well but are very much slower than Fischer's race stock (Fischer's dirty little secret?). I have owned and skied them both and have run on race skis in my son's tracks while he was carving hard on the SCs and gained very quickly on him, even though my skis are much shorter. The Fischer race skis, however, are simply outstanding for capable skiers. I think 165s would be fine for you in terms of flex. On that ski you will be able to control terrain by steering alone, not slipping. if you want to ski GS style - faster speeds and longer arcs - then a GS race ski might be a better choice. It took me a long time to finally decide to try race skis. I've never looked back. They are simply that much better than most rec skis which are designed to create profit margins for the manufacturers - build 'em cheap, sell 'em high. I think volkl race tigers are excellent, atomics, of course, even dynastars from what I have heard. The rossi race skis I have tried were the 9s slalom skis. They were ok but clearly designed for tail turning - I didn't like them much.
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Pavelski
reply to 'Looking for a slalom ski' posted Dec-2006
Just finished testing Rossi Z9 ski. If you want a SL ski that really zips yet stable try this ski.
One level down from Atomic SL12 but allows fast SL type skiing.
Get the 170 cm since 170 cm model is really 168 cm once you measure it on bench!
One level down from Atomic SL12 but allows fast SL type skiing.
Get the 170 cm since 170 cm model is really 168 cm once you measure it on bench!
Topic last updated on 09-December-2006 at 22:22