I have never been on a Snowboard.I am a Monoskier.
I came out of the lift of a hotel in Bansko and i was surprised to see 4 boards leaning against the far wall of the reception that looked like Monoskis but as i got closer to check them out i saw they had Snowboard bindings on them.
The owners turned up and we had a chat about them. They were in fact Alpine Snowboards.
http://www.yyzcanuck.com/snowboards.htm
Monoskis have evolved since the '80's Pintail shapes into shapes that resemble a long Snowboard.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3066/2954446118_100693aa24_m.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2119/2144596745_ba93d12eeb_m.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2098/2261575025_d748dbf01d_m.jpg
It seems that both disciplines have taken something from each other with mutual benefit.
I am not sure whether or not Snowboards started out as longer than the standard of today or developed longer for racing.
Maybe i could fit Alpine Snowboard bindings on one of my boards and ride it Snowboard style? Now there's a thought.
Feel free to clue me up please.
Rob
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I think you'll find that monoski manufacturers have copied snowboard trends rather than the other way around. In the eighties, there developed two style of snowboards, freeride/style and alpine. I've heard that at one point in the early days Jake Burton thought that alpine would be the trend and freestyle would just be a novelty. As it happened the opposite became the reality. There has been a resurgence of alpine style boarding in recent years.
As for mounting snowboard hard bindings on a monoski, it's not really practical. For nearly twenty years now, snowboard binding have been mounted by means of threaded inserts in the board. The stresses on snowboard bindings are greater than on ski bindings and so the only secure way to do it if there are no inserts, is to uese T-nuts.
What would you find different on an alpine snowboard ? Even though both feet are attached to the one board, the legs work very independently. This allows angulation to be much stronger, even on toeside turns. Shifting weight along the length of the board is possible in ways that are not on a monski or skis.
I occasionally ride a Skwal, which like the monoski has limitations, but is still fun to ride
Trencher
Interesting site. Normally nowdays swallowtails are only made for powder. The most famous split tail carving snowboardboard was the Sims Burner. These are still rated highly, though they are getting old now. The idea I believe is to to have a longer running length, which is better for stability in the carve, but split tail gives an effectively smaller radius than would be practical for the running length.
If you are at a point (need new gear or mental state)where a change would work for you, then I think you might appreciate alpine snowboarding.
Aside from the availability of gear, you would find many pluses. Maybe the best is the community. It is normal for alpine boarders to greet another alpine boarder as friend on the mountain. I might be in a strange resort and see another alpine board. Chances are, we will have much in common and end up riding together for the day. It's also usual to use forums to meet up with fellow alpine boarders. It's very unlike the ski or regular snowboarder scene.
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Started by Cc_7up2005 in Snowboarding 19-Oct-2008 - 4 Replies
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RossF
reply to 'Snowboard shapes' posted Oct-2008
Could Trencher please take the floor...
Trencher
reply to 'Snowboard shapes' posted Oct-2008
cc_7up2005 wrote:I have never been on a Snowboard.I am a Monoskier.
I came out of the lift of a hotel in Bansko and i was surprised to see 4 boards leaning against the far wall of the reception that looked like Monoskis but as i got closer to check them out i saw they had Snowboard bindings on them.
The owners turned up and we had a chat about them. They were in fact Alpine Snowboards.
http://www.yyzcanuck.com/snowboards.htm
Monoskis have evolved since the '80's Pintail shapes into shapes that resemble a long Snowboard.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3066/2954446118_100693aa24_m.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2119/2144596745_ba93d12eeb_m.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2098/2261575025_d748dbf01d_m.jpg
It seems that both disciplines have taken something from each other with mutual benefit.
I am not sure whether or not Snowboards started out as longer than the standard of today or developed longer for racing.
Maybe i could fit Alpine Snowboard bindings on one of my boards and ride it Snowboard style? Now there's a thought.
Feel free to clue me up please.
Rob
I think you'll find that monoski manufacturers have copied snowboard trends rather than the other way around. In the eighties, there developed two style of snowboards, freeride/style and alpine. I've heard that at one point in the early days Jake Burton thought that alpine would be the trend and freestyle would just be a novelty. As it happened the opposite became the reality. There has been a resurgence of alpine style boarding in recent years.
As for mounting snowboard hard bindings on a monoski, it's not really practical. For nearly twenty years now, snowboard binding have been mounted by means of threaded inserts in the board. The stresses on snowboard bindings are greater than on ski bindings and so the only secure way to do it if there are no inserts, is to uese T-nuts.
What would you find different on an alpine snowboard ? Even though both feet are attached to the one board, the legs work very independently. This allows angulation to be much stronger, even on toeside turns. Shifting weight along the length of the board is possible in ways that are not on a monski or skis.
I occasionally ride a Skwal, which like the monoski has limitations, but is still fun to ride
Trencher
because I'm so inclined .....
Cc_7up2005
reply to 'Snowboard shapes' posted Oct-2008
Thanks Trencher.
I am tempted to Take a learn to Snowboard course and add another string to my snow sliding 'bow'. As my other half is a nervous blue run standard skier it might even us up when we are on the hill together.
I may well never master any of the disciplines but i intend to have fun doing all of them.
Here's a link to a company (Ridgecrest.CA)that is bringing out a deep V snowboard that may interest you.
http://www.codaboards.com/development.html
Rob
I am tempted to Take a learn to Snowboard course and add another string to my snow sliding 'bow'. As my other half is a nervous blue run standard skier it might even us up when we are on the hill together.
I may well never master any of the disciplines but i intend to have fun doing all of them.
Here's a link to a company (Ridgecrest.CA)that is bringing out a deep V snowboard that may interest you.
http://www.codaboards.com/development.html
Rob
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Trencher
reply to 'Snowboard shapes' posted Oct-2008
cc_7up2005 wrote:
Here's a link to a company that is bringing out a deep V snowboard that may interest you.
http://www.codaboards.com/development.html
Rob
Interesting site. Normally nowdays swallowtails are only made for powder. The most famous split tail carving snowboardboard was the Sims Burner. These are still rated highly, though they are getting old now. The idea I believe is to to have a longer running length, which is better for stability in the carve, but split tail gives an effectively smaller radius than would be practical for the running length.
If you are at a point (need new gear or mental state)where a change would work for you, then I think you might appreciate alpine snowboarding.
Aside from the availability of gear, you would find many pluses. Maybe the best is the community. It is normal for alpine boarders to greet another alpine boarder as friend on the mountain. I might be in a strange resort and see another alpine board. Chances are, we will have much in common and end up riding together for the day. It's also usual to use forums to meet up with fellow alpine boarders. It's very unlike the ski or regular snowboarder scene.
Trencher
because I'm so inclined .....
Topic last updated on 19-October-2008 at 19:27