Ski Boot Sizing - Pretty urgent question...

Call me a heretic if you will but have you considered Ebay?
A cheap option for often barely worn ski boots - look at it as a mail order hire shop.
Different manufacturers have subtle differences in sizes - so what I would suggest is search on the net for each manufacturers interpretation of the mondo size for it's eauivalent in Euro shoe size or UK shoesize for your daughters current size (I'd wait until the winter)

Then search eBay - find some that look in good nick & put a bid. if they don't fit then put them back on eBay & all you are down is the cost of postage.

The average "boot fitter" in a hire shop isn't going to spend too much time on a hire boot.

At the end of your hols flog them on eBay & repeat next winter|!

A cheaky option is to try a few on at a ski outlet like Decathlon!

OldAndy wrote:Snapzzz ......

I await with interest the feedback on the boots when they arrive - primarily the reaction of Snapzzz Minor.
:D

But ....

As a linked but separate issue - everything you talk about purchasing seems to be for your good self or Little Snapzzz ????

Where is Mrs Snapzzz in all this???

Hope you are not forgetting her as without her goodwill the posibility of one, let alone several, ski holidays will diminish or evaporate.

Top Tip - look after OH to facilitate skiing trips.
:thumbup:

Mrs snapzzz already has her own boots and is well looked after in other areas so there is no need to worry there.

The sad news is that the shop refunded me this morning, the boots are now out of stock! Gutted. It was a cracking buy.

Don't be too upset about it. The deal was probably good (I am not in the loop regarding prices for kids ski equipment) but it's not something your daughter truly need. There is a difference between buying something you WANT to buy and buying something you NEED to buy. My friends son got his first boots when he was 13 - and he'd been skiing since he was 3 for two weeks every year, so the boots were bought because he really needed them as typical rental stuff was simply not suitable anymore for his skiing. He's 16 now and still growing so all of a sudden the whole thing became very expensive - he needs a pair every year and prices for junior race boots are comparable to prices for high end adult boots. Plus if you really want your daughter to have her own boots now you can keep looking for online deals or even wait for begining of the season and have your daughter try the boots you want to buy. With footwear it's often a pot luck - she's at the age when her feet may start growing and will grow half a size per year for the next couple of years or not grow for a while (or at all). Buying too big shoes thinking that feet will grow IMHO is the same as buying too small clothes thinking you will lose weight. If you want to buy, buy something that is usable now and be prepared to buy again once it's not usable.

Mekka wrote:Every 'Distance Purchase' in the UK allows 7 days for the customer to return the goods, in their original condition, no questions asked.

However you are likely to have to pay for the returns yourself. Weigh up the pricing of heavy boots, in a parcel sized box as part of the cost of the purchase if you intend to go that route. If it's a NI based store the price for a private courier is likely to be expensive, I'd go for Royal Mail. You'll also want to get it via a service that gives proof of postage and confirmation of receipt, which will add to the return costs.

I believe the returns cost have to be paid by the trader, but as I also said check out the current DSRs as there could have been some changes from the EU on this.

Snapzzz wrote:.....well looked after in other areas so there is no need to worry there..

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Snapzzz wrote:Guys and Gals,

Can you pls help me out with something because i think i am confusing myself now.

At £30 a week i have been hiring boots for little Snapzzz but i have decided that i am going to buy her some for next season. I don't really want to debate the reasoning of buying boots for a 12 year old so i will just lay down my thinking and leave it there.

New boots are cheaper than 2 trips hiring.
Hire boots for kids are crap, they are beat up and smelly
Little snapzzz would love it as she is the only one that has to hire.

And as for fitting, well she doesn't get a real fitting on hire boots so i guess there won't be much difference.

I am going to buy her these:

http://www.climateski.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=1994

But here is my question:

I wish to buy a uk shoe size 3 to 3.5, what is this in MP ?
You think this would be easy but many stores have charts that give different answers.
EG:

Ellis brigham have MP 23.0 as a uk 3.5

http://www.ellis-brigham.com/cgi-bin/psSizeChart.cgi/Salomon:Ski%20Boots:ski_boots.txt:cat

Where as this chart has MP 22.0 as a 3.5

http://www.roamshop.com/gear-info_comments.php?id=51_0_8_0_C

And this one has MP 22.5 as a 3.5 uk

http://www.coyoti.com/page/109/Atomic_Ski_Boots_Size_Chart


What is the true answer? i am lost as to which to purchase.

Take her into a local shop and have some similar boots tried on. Get her size and then order these ones. I bought my son some cheap Salomons in Decathlon, he skis to the degree that precise fitting is not an issue for him and they were fine at a similar price.
Dont worry about all this fitting stuff, you'll end up shelling out £300 plus for boots that might fit her for 1-2 trips. Madness.

Tony_H wrote:
Dont worry about all this fitting stuff, you'll end up shelling out £300 plus for boots that might fit her for 1-2 trips. Madness.

My thinking too.
Anyway, they sold out so it's irrelevant now......until some others come along.

never heard so much tosh in all my time on here....£300+ for fitting a 12 yo , not unless they are in a full on race boot....BUT sizing the boot correctly is a must, if the foot measures 22 then the biggest boot should be a 22/22.5 shell, any bigger and the foot may feel great for the first day or two but the liner will pack down and the boot will be too big...this is why any good fitter should do a shell check, irrespective if it is a £50 junior boot for a £500 world cup boot....now as for the foot measuring a 27.5 but being in a 28.5 boot

1 the head edge is one of the biggest to size boots on the market
2 i wear a size 11 street shoe and ski in a 28, 27/27.5 in some models
3 do a shell check, take the liner out and put your foot in the empty shell, toes tckling the front there should be 10-20 mm space behind your heel...25mm at absolute most...... in that 28.5 shell if there is less than 25mm then you need to buy a new ruler as it must be well out and your foot cannot measure 27.5
4 ignore the charts that try and convert uk to mondopoint sizes and vice versa they are so far out it is not true, boot manufacturers add on a little extra space to make the boot feel good out the box, great for standing in the shop, not so good when you start skiing as after a while the foot starts to slip and you have to over tighten the boot clips to stop movement..this normally stops bloodflow as well

i guess this is all irrelevant as the boots were sold out but it is not just a comfort thing, it is safety as well, too much space in a boot is a recipe for a broken leg if something goes wrong, but hey what do i know