pronation and acl injuries

Trencher sent me a link to a new binding called "KneeBinding" These bindings should save all our ACL's!

I'll publish the link later.

Huard.

when I recently went to get my boots fitted, the guy asked me to stand straight and told me my feet were over prontating! Now given that I had just been to see a specialist podiatrist about my burning feet who told me there was nothing mechanically wrong with my feet and they were perfectly aligned etc who would I believe? I dont think boot fitters are always right as if I hadnt been to see the specialist, i would have just went along with the boot fitter saying that i was overpronating.

Some bootfitters aren't very good...

karen72 wrote:when I recently went to get my boots fitted, the guy asked me to stand straight and told me my feet were over prontating! Now given that I had just been to see a specialist podiatrist about my burning feet who told me there was nothing mechanically wrong with my feet and they were perfectly aligned etc who would I believe? I dont think boot fitters are always right as if I hadnt been to see the specialist, i would have just went along with the boot fitter saying that i was overpronating.

So, could your specialist podiatrist explain your "burning feet in ski boot" symptoms?

karen72 wrote:when I recently went to get my boots fitted, the guy asked me to stand straight and told me my feet were over prontating! Now given that I had just been to see a specialist podiatrist about my burning feet who told me there was nothing mechanically wrong with my feet and they were perfectly aligned etc who would I believe? I dont think boot fitters are always right as if I hadnt been to see the specialist, i would have just went along with the boot fitter saying that i was overpronating.

mmm,

so what was causing the burning sensation...is it nerve related, or a compensation for something

whilst i have to agree with pablo that some boot fitters aren't very good (and i kinow he is not keen on bootfitters from what others have told me), there are a lot of podiatirsts out there that i wouldn't trust either... do bare in mind that up until a few years ago there were three ways to call yourself a podiatrist
1 do a 3 year degree course
2 do a 2 year college course
3 do a 6 week!!!!! dr Scholl correspondnace course


this all changed a few years back but there are still a few of these people practising as they were grandfathered into the protected qualification due to the fact they had been in practice for 5 years or more

it also depends how you classify pronation, WE NEED PRONATION TO WALK... it is a natural motion, but what needs to be considered is that what is considered normal in apair of soft evryday shoes could cause a lot of pain in a ski boot with a hard plastic shell, then of course there is the debate about passive /static pronation and active dynamic pronation during sport (ie it is likely to increase during activity) also what is normal for one person is excessive for another.

some bootfitters love to use the term as a sales tool for insoles or to make them feel they know more than the customer... the fact is they should know more than the customer, buying a pair of ski boots should be an education, you should learn things about how your feet function, how they change size from seated to standing, how changing a simple adjustment on a boot or adding a small lift or a simple insole will change its position ...all this should help you become a better skier, the main probolem is there are not enough fitters who offer close to this level of interaction

there are shops who do not shell check (lots out there) because it takes time
there are fitters who will not sell a custom footbed as it takes more time than an off the peg one
there are fitters who state they work with a shell check from 10-25 mm which is a pretty good industry norm yet let customers leave the store wtth 30mm + in their boots

there are good and bad in every trade, bootfitting, podiatry, car mechanics, plumbers... the question is did you find the good bootfitter or the good podiatrist??? which was right which was wrong, often there are no correct answers

bandit wrote:

karen72 wrote:when I recently went to get my boots fitted, the guy asked me to stand straight and told me my feet were over prontating! Now given that I had just been to see a specialist podiatrist about my burning feet who told me there was nothing mechanically wrong with my feet and they were perfectly aligned etc who would I believe? I dont think boot fitters are always right as if I hadnt been to see the specialist, i would have just went along with the boot fitter saying that i was overpronating.

So, could your specialist podiatrist explain your "burning feet in ski boot" symptoms?

thats one thing i was wondering

One of the more common ways of injuring an ACL in skiing (excluding collisions) is hyperextending the knee - going over the tips of the ski's. The bindings work well to release in rotation but less well at releasing in the vertical plane.

If you get flung forward over the tips of your ski's the bindings don't release, the knees straighten beyond 180 & it's bye bye ACL. Again this is more common in women because of knee structure and less powerful thigh muscles to prevent hyperextension.

Inserts to control overpronation may alter Q angle and possibly reduce fatigue (a contributer to falls & injuries) but won't fundamentally change the knee anatomy.

well CEM as bandit knows this has been an ongoing problem of mine for which i made a separate post a while back.

I am still seeing the GP for this. I have had numerous blood tests, the last one was for ferritin as GP thinks i have what is called "burning feet syndrome" but I beg to differ as this condition generally is worse at night and often the pain is relived on weight bearing. my burning pain is only brought on by weight bearing and as I found out last year, by ski boots. I often get tingling and numbness and burning in my feet after i wear new trainers or shoes but after about 2 hours of walking (that is the max I can manage then I am crippled) if I try to walk after this the only way i can describe it is walking on lava with some crushed glass mixed in (to the soles of my feet). they have ruled out metatarsalgia and also mortons nueroma, I am on iron tablets due to my low iron but I am going back to GP next week maybe and I think I might ask for an MRI. I have read that some people who have disk bulge in their lower back (and i often suffer from back pain, I cant stand for more than half an hour and often take a chair with me to events such as the kids footy etc) can have presentation of burning feet.

I google this every time I am on the computer to see if there are any new things that i have not come across. I would like the neurological and vascular factors ruled out too. (although he did feel the pulses in my feet and did a rudimentary sensation test which all turned out to be ok.

I am starting to feel like a modern medical mystery!
So basically to answer your question......No lol
PS Trencher, sorry to hijack your thread.