What NOT to do before you go on your ski holiday !!

bandit wrote:

amanda n wrote:Pablo you are scotland yes? Wickers you are goo goo land no?

Nah, Wickers is from la la land :mrgreen:

You girls have lost the plot, I'm telling Admin :wink:

ner ner :-o

amanda n wrote:ner ner :-o

I've only one thing to say and thats Pajero :mrgreen:

amanda n wrote:Edale, youth hostel

Mmmm, that brought a flashback ~ Completed the Four Inns Fell Race twice, when I were a lad. Twas the last 50 miles of the Pennine Way.

Just the thought of it now, fair scares me. :shock:

Sounds like a good healthy trip between pubs,that one Dave,did they give you 24 hours to complete it?

Dave Mac wrote:

amanda n wrote:Edale, youth hostel

Mmmm, that brought a flashback ~ Completed the Four Inns Fell Race twice, when I were a lad. Twas the last 50 miles of the Pennine Way.
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sorry, but it's not :lol: it's 44 miles long and shares a short section down to Edale with the Pennine way.

(completed 4 times, sub-9 hrs, 3 stints with Mountain Rescue support)

Where did you start Ise? It may be that the route differs now, since two lads died on one of my efforts. The Scout Association took fright.

I have no doubts about the 50 miles. At that time, mid-sixties, the course record was held by Roger Grimshaw of Manchester Uni team. Think he was around seven and a half hours.

In the year that the lads died, only a dozen teams finished, out of the eighty odd that started. It took us over 19 hours, all in blizzard white out conditions. All map and compass, no GIS! Most teams reckoned they had done over 60 miles, when the amount of retracing was taken into account.

The following year, I ran solo, in good weather, and managed sub-nine hours. For comparison, my three peaks time, (24~26 miles) was three and a half hours. The main difference, ie additional time-wise with the Four Inns, was the condition of Black Hill and Kinderscout. When the groughs are a foot deep in soft peat, it is a different race to when the stuff is nearly dry.

My time for flat road 50 milers was around the 7~7.5 hours, which roughly equates about right with 2hour 50 odd London marathon times.

The other aspect of the Four Inns route was that there were established check points, I don't know if that would have changed as well, ie are they the same locations?

Dave Mac wrote:Where did you start Ise? It may be that the route differs now, since two lads died on one of my efforts. The Scout Association took fright.

I know, those events led directly to the formation of the Peak District Mountain Rescue Team. But, neither the location of the Nags Head at Edale nor the Pennine Way route have altered so it doesn't trace much of the same route.

Dave Mac wrote:I have no doubts about the 50 miles. At that time, mid-sixties, the course record was held by Roger Grimshaw of Manchester Uni team. Think he was around seven and a half hours.

not quite, in 1966 on an alternate course a time of 7.5 hours was set. The record on the real course, 40 or 44 miles but not 50, was around 8hrs 30min until my days in the 80's where teams pushed it down to 8 hours and finally below. The current record stands from 1989 still and those guys were unbeatable in the 80's :D

Current times are over 9 hours for a winner apparently which is frankly disappointing, the youth today are desperately unfit :roll: