But they are not yours, and I believe he is very happy with them. I dont think there is a law which says if a boot has a 110 flex then they cant be race boots. I dont remember Skidaddle ever saying he entered races anyway.
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Well I just checked the brochure from Atomic that just arrived in the post, the first boot for women in there is an RT CSL 110 which, unsurprisingly from the name, has a flex of 110. The next is an H110W and you can probably guess the flex of that. Yesterday the Garmont brochure arrived with Astral (flex 110) and along with some invites to ski tests some flyers for the Lange Freeride 110W. In fact the introduction of these stiffer boots for women has been a major trend over the last few years as has the release of stiffer freeride boots generally.
Flex indexes for mens and womens boots from the same manufacturer are calculated in just the same way, it would be senseless to do it any other way, the measure is a function of the force applied (y) and forward flex motion attained (x). The reason it differs between manufacturers is that the (mathematic and engineering) obvious point that the same flex index can be yielded by different values of x and y. For example, Salomon achieve a high flex rating for boots that have a superbly progressive flex, others without that progression have sweet spots through the flex where flexing requires proportionally less force to achieve.
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Tony_H
reply to 'can you expalin flex angles?' posted Sep-2008
Ise
reply to 'can you expalin flex angles?' posted Sep-2008
pavelski wrote:Bandit,
I checked my technical manuals for ski boots and found something "interesting" that I had never noticed before your comments!
I hope this will "clarify" the issue of women's flex index and men's flex index values! In essence you should not compare the two!
The range of a women's flex index is from 40-100
The range of a men's flex index is 60-150
It is clear then that a women's flex index of 40 (lowest) is "equivalent" to men's 60!
I will wroite to all ski boot compamies and see if I can get them to confirm this idea!
Will get back to you!
Well I just checked the brochure from Atomic that just arrived in the post, the first boot for women in there is an RT CSL 110 which, unsurprisingly from the name, has a flex of 110. The next is an H110W and you can probably guess the flex of that. Yesterday the Garmont brochure arrived with Astral (flex 110) and along with some invites to ski tests some flyers for the Lange Freeride 110W. In fact the introduction of these stiffer boots for women has been a major trend over the last few years as has the release of stiffer freeride boots generally.
Flex indexes for mens and womens boots from the same manufacturer are calculated in just the same way, it would be senseless to do it any other way, the measure is a function of the force applied (y) and forward flex motion attained (x). The reason it differs between manufacturers is that the (mathematic and engineering) obvious point that the same flex index can be yielded by different values of x and y. For example, Salomon achieve a high flex rating for boots that have a superbly progressive flex, others without that progression have sweet spots through the flex where flexing requires proportionally less force to achieve.
Dulcamara
reply to 'can you expalin flex angles?' posted Sep-2008
I would like to reiterate my point, this is not a very helpful conversation, flex indexes vary so much from make to make, the only way to know how hard a boot is, is by putting your foot in it and testing it. ESPECIALLY once you get over 110/120.
Please anyone reading this, just use the numbers on the side of your boot as a guide not a rule. I've used race boots that flex like normal boots and punter boots that should be rated as "only use if you weigh the same as a small elephant."
Skiing these days has become so technical that we are awash with numbers and stats (i actually love it) but it's far too easy to put too much trust in these numbers, ALWAYS try the kit, skis, boots, helmets. We are all different shapes and move in different ways so one piece of equipment will act differntly to me as it will with you, if I weren't right there'd just be one make of ski, the best one, and that'd be no fun at all.
Smile, we do the best sport in the world xx
Please anyone reading this, just use the numbers on the side of your boot as a guide not a rule. I've used race boots that flex like normal boots and punter boots that should be rated as "only use if you weigh the same as a small elephant."
Skiing these days has become so technical that we are awash with numbers and stats (i actually love it) but it's far too easy to put too much trust in these numbers, ALWAYS try the kit, skis, boots, helmets. We are all different shapes and move in different ways so one piece of equipment will act differntly to me as it will with you, if I weren't right there'd just be one make of ski, the best one, and that'd be no fun at all.
Smile, we do the best sport in the world xx
Topic last updated on 13-September-2008 at 09:17