One in six Britons on a ‘ski’ holiday never actually set foot on the slopes, reveals a poll by Moneysupermarket.com.
To many Europeans ski holiday means to see snow and take lots of pictures and yes drink!
Skiing is just an excuse!
The European Team will have first chance to present their point of view!
You all have 2 days to prepare.
Debate Topic 1 : Are Brits true skiers?
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Congratulations Freezywater has "volunteered" to help out the European Team.
It also has been noted that there are quite a few "British" members. If any members of this site from other European countries want to participate as panelist please contact Pavel via PM.
We are looking for French, Swiss, Bulgarian, Romanian (was there not a student from this country on this site?) to participate.
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Started by Pavelski in Ski Chatter 07-Dec-2007 - 13 Replies
Pavelski posted Dec-2007
Pavelski
reply to 'Debate Topic 1 : Are Brits true skiers?' posted Dec-2007
Here is full text;
Brits ski straight to the bar
Friday, 07 Dec 2007 10:54
One in six Britons on a ‘ski’ holiday never actually set foot on the slopes, reveals a poll by Moneysupermarket.com.
Northerners are the most likely to head straight for the après ski, with 22 per cent of them admitting to bypassing the skiing altogether.
While for those of us who do make it to the top of the ski lift, a massive one in four of us will not have insurance.
That is millions of skiers who are putting themselves and others at huge financial risk.
Even those who are insured may not realise that many of the activities they will be partaking in may not be covered, such as tobogganing, off-piste skiing, snowboarding and ski-jumping.
Many insurers will also not cover anyone injured while under the influence of drugs and alcohol, so be careful not to notch up too many mulled wines at the mountain top bar.
You should also check the small print for the following ski cover:
# Ski equipment
# Ski hire
# Piste closure
# Inability to ski due to accident
# Inability to ski due to sickness or the loss or theft of your ski pass
# Avalanche closure.
Brits ski straight to the bar
Friday, 07 Dec 2007 10:54
One in six Britons on a ‘ski’ holiday never actually set foot on the slopes, reveals a poll by Moneysupermarket.com.
Northerners are the most likely to head straight for the après ski, with 22 per cent of them admitting to bypassing the skiing altogether.
While for those of us who do make it to the top of the ski lift, a massive one in four of us will not have insurance.
That is millions of skiers who are putting themselves and others at huge financial risk.
Even those who are insured may not realise that many of the activities they will be partaking in may not be covered, such as tobogganing, off-piste skiing, snowboarding and ski-jumping.
Many insurers will also not cover anyone injured while under the influence of drugs and alcohol, so be careful not to notch up too many mulled wines at the mountain top bar.
You should also check the small print for the following ski cover:
# Ski equipment
# Ski hire
# Piste closure
# Inability to ski due to accident
# Inability to ski due to sickness or the loss or theft of your ski pass
# Avalanche closure.
Pavelski
reply to 'Debate Topic 1 : Are Brits true skiers?' posted Dec-2007
Presenting The "Americas" Team.
1. Mike
Many moons ago my grandparents' parents landed in Nova Scotia from the British Isles. Possibly the great potato famine had much to do with that. They were so gobsmaked with the scenery of our lovely land that they settled in Cape Breton ( the Sullivans & Sheehans) and along the coast nearer to Halifax (Edwards & Murphys). In those days Cape Smokey on Cape Breton Island (which is part of Nova Scotia) was just a high pinnacle of land. In the past years it became one of the best ski resorts in the province - but in more recent years has seen the difficulties of many small hills. Their slogan is "Come soar with the Eagles". On Cape Smokey, skiing is flying in the sight of un-believable scenery.
"Mike from NS" came into being and grew up to be a strong and loyal subject to the Queen but with a new viewpont that allowed him to question social practices and “established values”. Mike from NS was taught to be respectful towards others and maintain a polite decorum at all times. During these formative years skiing was never an option, as it was a risky sport after all. Not until after many years of wedded bliss did he and his wife find skiing. Now into their 8th year as slope sliders, they find themselves more than completely hooked on the sport; and realize that they should have started earlier. It isn't all that risky! Mike from NS has met some really "neat" people while skiing and constantly continues to learn from them.
In this debate you will get frank, open unique opinions that may not “agree” with your European mind-set. Let this debate make skiers everywhere accept other opinions and lifestyles so that we can all ski together. Of course we all know that this “new world” mentality is what this “new school” skiing needs to progress. So I am sure we will win this debate.
2. Dshenberger
He is 27, a serious man who admits having roots in the UK but now skiing and living in the USA. He will provide a unique perspective since he has this unique background.We all have read his many excellent posts on this site. Sharp, smart man a perfect worthy challenge to Bandit!
3. Trencher
Who does not know Trencher. The man of many talents. He is known as the "carving man" on this site.He also admits to having some roots in England but feels he can defend America's honor in this debate!
The European Team
Bandit.
She has traveled and will continue to travel in all parts of Europe.Skiing is in her blood and rumors are she is looking for that skiing Shangri-la and will soon "retire"!
Jan
What can we say about this European. First his great wit and of course his desire to "tease" us all with his sayings! Another skiing gypsy who as found skiing "Shangri-la"! He pretends to work hard as a father of two,yet every time someone calls his place he is of skiing!A man who has traveled a great deal, he know how to defened the European point of view!
1. Mike
Many moons ago my grandparents' parents landed in Nova Scotia from the British Isles. Possibly the great potato famine had much to do with that. They were so gobsmaked with the scenery of our lovely land that they settled in Cape Breton ( the Sullivans & Sheehans) and along the coast nearer to Halifax (Edwards & Murphys). In those days Cape Smokey on Cape Breton Island (which is part of Nova Scotia) was just a high pinnacle of land. In the past years it became one of the best ski resorts in the province - but in more recent years has seen the difficulties of many small hills. Their slogan is "Come soar with the Eagles". On Cape Smokey, skiing is flying in the sight of un-believable scenery.
"Mike from NS" came into being and grew up to be a strong and loyal subject to the Queen but with a new viewpont that allowed him to question social practices and “established values”. Mike from NS was taught to be respectful towards others and maintain a polite decorum at all times. During these formative years skiing was never an option, as it was a risky sport after all. Not until after many years of wedded bliss did he and his wife find skiing. Now into their 8th year as slope sliders, they find themselves more than completely hooked on the sport; and realize that they should have started earlier. It isn't all that risky! Mike from NS has met some really "neat" people while skiing and constantly continues to learn from them.
In this debate you will get frank, open unique opinions that may not “agree” with your European mind-set. Let this debate make skiers everywhere accept other opinions and lifestyles so that we can all ski together. Of course we all know that this “new world” mentality is what this “new school” skiing needs to progress. So I am sure we will win this debate.
2. Dshenberger
He is 27, a serious man who admits having roots in the UK but now skiing and living in the USA. He will provide a unique perspective since he has this unique background.We all have read his many excellent posts on this site. Sharp, smart man a perfect worthy challenge to Bandit!
3. Trencher
Who does not know Trencher. The man of many talents. He is known as the "carving man" on this site.He also admits to having some roots in England but feels he can defend America's honor in this debate!
The European Team
Bandit.
She has traveled and will continue to travel in all parts of Europe.Skiing is in her blood and rumors are she is looking for that skiing Shangri-la and will soon "retire"!
Jan
What can we say about this European. First his great wit and of course his desire to "tease" us all with his sayings! Another skiing gypsy who as found skiing "Shangri-la"! He pretends to work hard as a father of two,yet every time someone calls his place he is of skiing!A man who has traveled a great deal, he know how to defened the European point of view!
Dshenberger
reply to 'Debate Topic 1 : Are Brits true skiers?' posted Dec-2007
Well, I don't mean to be contradictory, but. . .
I am actually 26. :) And the closest things to "roots" in the UK are that I had an British table tennis coach until I got to busy with skiing!
Maybe Pavel was just trying to make me older and more balanced! Haha!
I am actually 26. :) And the closest things to "roots" in the UK are that I had an British table tennis coach until I got to busy with skiing!
Maybe Pavel was just trying to make me older and more balanced! Haha!
Freezywater
reply to 'Debate Topic 1 : Are Brits true skiers?' posted Dec-2007
It seems like Uncle Sam has an unfair advantage over the Europhiles :!:
3 to 2 :?:
3 to 2 :?:
I would have got away with it if it wasn't for those pesky kids!
Pavelski
reply to 'Debate Topic 1 : Are Brits true skiers?' posted Dec-2007
Congratulations Freezywater has "volunteered" to help out the European Team.
It also has been noted that there are quite a few "British" members. If any members of this site from other European countries want to participate as panelist please contact Pavel via PM.
We are looking for French, Swiss, Bulgarian, Romanian (was there not a student from this country on this site?) to participate.
Jan I Stenmark
reply to 'Debate Topic 1 : Are Brits true skiers?' posted Dec-2007
Pav,
Much as I like a good verbal joust (as you know!) I wonder if you could please clarify the basis of this debate?
I hope it’s not going to be about who’s better, the Europeans or the North Americans! … Seems to me one of the truly great things about this site is that it transcends the geographical boundaries arbitrarily imposed on us all by our birth or circumstances which we then grow to defend without a great deal of rational thought. It would be a shame (IMHO) if we were to start arguing about good, better & best …
I love skiing (snow-sports), I know you do, and I suspect every regular contributor on this site feels similarly so let’s find a way to embrace this emotion and work against the need to reduce the other person’s position to a lower one than our own!
Personally, I would love to hear accounts of how good the skiing is in Japan, Russia, Argentina, New Zealand or places even further removed from my own experience.
Could anyone give an account of their experiences skiing in Africa, China or Tibet for example?
If I have got hold of the poo end of the stick then I apologise, but I would rather learn from other’s experience than force my limited views on others.
Humbly yours,
Jan
Much as I like a good verbal joust (as you know!) I wonder if you could please clarify the basis of this debate?
I hope it’s not going to be about who’s better, the Europeans or the North Americans! … Seems to me one of the truly great things about this site is that it transcends the geographical boundaries arbitrarily imposed on us all by our birth or circumstances which we then grow to defend without a great deal of rational thought. It would be a shame (IMHO) if we were to start arguing about good, better & best …
I love skiing (snow-sports), I know you do, and I suspect every regular contributor on this site feels similarly so let’s find a way to embrace this emotion and work against the need to reduce the other person’s position to a lower one than our own!
Personally, I would love to hear accounts of how good the skiing is in Japan, Russia, Argentina, New Zealand or places even further removed from my own experience.
Could anyone give an account of their experiences skiing in Africa, China or Tibet for example?
If I have got hold of the poo end of the stick then I apologise, but I would rather learn from other’s experience than force my limited views on others.
Humbly yours,
Jan
Mike from NS
reply to 'Debate Topic 1 : Are Brits true skiers?' posted Dec-2007
Jan,
My understanding is that this debate will only serve to "educate" each other as to our preferences in the sport of skiing. We will learn of what differences in expectations and goals we have when we head out to a ski hill. No doubt there must be some cultural differences but then the debate may end up showing us that there is more of a difference in our goals and expectations as related to age brackets rather than cultures. We all obviously have a great interest in skiing or we wouldn't be reading these pages.
Mike :wink:
My understanding is that this debate will only serve to "educate" each other as to our preferences in the sport of skiing. We will learn of what differences in expectations and goals we have when we head out to a ski hill. No doubt there must be some cultural differences but then the debate may end up showing us that there is more of a difference in our goals and expectations as related to age brackets rather than cultures. We all obviously have a great interest in skiing or we wouldn't be reading these pages.
Mike :wink:
Age is but a number.
Topic last updated on 12-December-2007 at 02:21