http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwmjkA4l6Ic
Intresting to watch the other ski carving vids on utube with people using poles and compare to the Carving Cup vid above.
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Started by Trencher in Ski Technique 17-Oct-2007 - 11 Replies
Trencher posted Oct-2007
because I'm so inclined .....
Edited 2 times. Last update at 17-Oct-2007
Pavelski
reply to 'Carving' posted Oct-2007
Trencher,
What is beautiful to watch is the quick shift from one edge to another.
No hesitation,,no dead spots!
No side "windshield whipper turns"
The modern ski design has made skiing so "dynamic"!!!
Thanks for post!
What is beautiful to watch is the quick shift from one edge to another.
No hesitation,,no dead spots!
No side "windshield whipper turns"
The modern ski design has made skiing so "dynamic"!!!
Thanks for post!
Ellistine
reply to 'Carving' posted Oct-2007
And again with poles;
But then again, it's his job!
But then again, it's his job!
Trencher
reply to 'Carving' posted Oct-2007
Ellistine
While the world cup skier looks great (of course), but when compared to the carving cup skier it seems the poles are determining the movement of not just the arms, but the upper body as well. These pole forced movements do not look natural to me. The carving cup skier is able to use his arms to much better effect for balance, weight shifting, edge pressure, rotation and feel. Ofcourse he'd be screwed if the lift line (queue) slopes up hill.
Trencher
While the world cup skier looks great (of course), but when compared to the carving cup skier it seems the poles are determining the movement of not just the arms, but the upper body as well. These pole forced movements do not look natural to me. The carving cup skier is able to use his arms to much better effect for balance, weight shifting, edge pressure, rotation and feel. Ofcourse he'd be screwed if the lift line (queue) slopes up hill.
Trencher
because I'm so inclined .....
Edited 1 time. Last update at 30-Oct-2007
Pavelski
reply to 'Carving' posted Oct-2007
Trencher,
Who is that young lad on the picture to the left?
You and Jan with your pictures are giving "bad" image of "older" skiers!
I am actually so happy to "meet you" on this site. I can feel that there are others like me.It reminds me of the saying, "growing old is mandatory,,,staying young of heart is optional"
So when my kids "ask" me to slow down, or not do flips with ski poles or not "fly" down the ski trails on my bike I will refer them to you! I can blame you and Jan for the bad influence!
Stay young!
Who is that young lad on the picture to the left?
You and Jan with your pictures are giving "bad" image of "older" skiers!
I am actually so happy to "meet you" on this site. I can feel that there are others like me.It reminds me of the saying, "growing old is mandatory,,,staying young of heart is optional"
So when my kids "ask" me to slow down, or not do flips with ski poles or not "fly" down the ski trails on my bike I will refer them to you! I can blame you and Jan for the bad influence!
Stay young!
Trencher
reply to 'Carving' posted Nov-2007
Pavel
The mountain biking is hardly a work in progress yet.
I love to find sports with related concepts.
There are several concepts based around Newtonian physics and efficient use of our bodies, that run through many sports. Did you know that mountain bikers use the same weighting movement to gain traction through a turn as a skier would for edge presure in a cross over turn. That a bunny hop on a mountain bike is the same concept as an ollie on a snowboard. That the rotation concept to pirouette in a kayak is the same as nose spin on a snowboard. That pumping a skate board on the street is the same as accelerating through a carved turn on skis.
There is so much cross benching of ideas and concepts nowdays that you as you become proficient in one sport, you have a head start in the next sport you care to try.
As you know, we tend to think in our thirties that we are old. Then only after each decade has passed do we realise how young we actually were and what potential the future still holds.
The loss of the senior citizen passes and discounts at many ski resorts is testament to the way people are no longer accepting age as a barrier to do anything including skiing.
Pavel. I hope you manage to at least get "a fix" this ski season.
Trencher
Age does have it's advantages. This year I'll jump into the 50-55 range for Nastar racing. Look out handicap.
The mountain biking is hardly a work in progress yet.
I love to find sports with related concepts.
There are several concepts based around Newtonian physics and efficient use of our bodies, that run through many sports. Did you know that mountain bikers use the same weighting movement to gain traction through a turn as a skier would for edge presure in a cross over turn. That a bunny hop on a mountain bike is the same concept as an ollie on a snowboard. That the rotation concept to pirouette in a kayak is the same as nose spin on a snowboard. That pumping a skate board on the street is the same as accelerating through a carved turn on skis.
There is so much cross benching of ideas and concepts nowdays that you as you become proficient in one sport, you have a head start in the next sport you care to try.
As you know, we tend to think in our thirties that we are old. Then only after each decade has passed do we realise how young we actually were and what potential the future still holds.
The loss of the senior citizen passes and discounts at many ski resorts is testament to the way people are no longer accepting age as a barrier to do anything including skiing.
Pavel. I hope you manage to at least get "a fix" this ski season.
Trencher
Age does have it's advantages. This year I'll jump into the 50-55 range for Nastar racing. Look out handicap.
because I'm so inclined .....
Edited 1 time. Last update at 01-Nov-2007
Jan I Stenmark
reply to 'Carving' posted Nov-2007
Trencher, your observations are fantastically well made - I think the old order of separating activities by the obvious, physical attributes (skis, bike, parachute, etc) is rapidly dying. What I am less sure about is whether this is due to us oldies living long enough to blend skills learned across multiple sports or the youngsters failing to accept any preconceptions we may (try to) pass to them!
I especially like your comparison of pumping the skateboard with the acceleration in the carve – Bottle that feeling and sell it to all Intermediate Skiers who aspire to improve their Carving!
Race fast,
Jan
I especially like your comparison of pumping the skateboard with the acceleration in the carve – Bottle that feeling and sell it to all Intermediate Skiers who aspire to improve their Carving!
Race fast,
Jan
JamesA
reply to 'Carving' posted Nov-2007
Here's another video file to watch that shows skiers doing "advanced" carved turns.
http://www.snowpro.com/photogallery/videogallery_e.html
Thanks for the link to the Interski on You tube. I enjoyed the nostalgia.
http://www.snowpro.com/photogallery/videogallery_e.html
Thanks for the link to the Interski on You tube. I enjoyed the nostalgia.
Topic last updated on 27-November-2007 at 19:00