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Started by Robin in Spain in Ski Chatter - 41 Replies

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Snapzzz
reply to 'Ski insurance restrictions'
posted Jan-2014

Finn wrote:Is it illegal to have alcohol in your system when skiing? There may well be a moral argument to support this but there isn't a legal one as far as I can tell, i dont think drink driving limits can be applied to skiing. You could be done for reckless endangerment by the police but you would have to be really pissed. UK Gov travel website has no guidance on alcohol limit when skiing.
This is your holiday, having a pint at lunch or before the last run of the day is not reckless behaviour having six pints & four jäger tees would be.


Totally agree Finn.
But We aren't talking about the law of the land here, we are at the mercy of the T&C's of your insurance.
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Tony_H
reply to 'Ski insurance restrictions'
posted Jan-2014

Brianmcn wrote:Yes Tony most folk do like to have a social life, but that gives you the right to ski while seriously under the influence of alcohol...?
I think not, have you ever tried having a social life without getting pissed up and taking the chance of killing or seriously injuring another person, who might just be a child who happens to have the bad luck to be in the path of an alcoholic skier, if you accept you would be over the limit to drive why is it then acceptable to ski in the same state..?
as for the others on this forum who think along the lines of it's ok to drink and ski then you all need to have a reality check!!


Wo steady on. Where did I say anything about ME getting "pissed up"? Quite the opposite in fact, I actually said (if you read it correctly) that I have never had more than 2 pints over lunch, and in fact thats probably more likely to be a pint of shandy at the most.
I'm actually in the camp for saying you SHOULDN'T ski while under the influence, but I think theres a lot of us who like to stop at the last hut and have a couple of drinks before skiing the last run off, carefully, and when its pretty deserted to be fair.
As for alcoholic skiing - I think you need to visit the big famous apres resorts like St Anton, Val d'Isere, Verbier, Ischgl, Solden, Meribel, Saalbach etc where there are well known drinking huts up the mountain and start your own individual campaign for not drinking and skiing. See how you get on with the local workers and tourist board alike. However, I do agree that drinking for the sake of drinking and skiing don't mix, and in fact in Mayrhofen I have witnessed many many German, Scandinavian and Dutch men skiing after a long long liquid lunch.
In fact, our friends at WTSS often write about their (in my opinion unnecessarily) long lunches and alcoholic accompaniments.

There is a grey area, as it is not an offence to drink under the influence, although we all have a duty of care and safety to everyone else, and therefore need to think about what we are drinking up there.

And what I meant about it being social - many people like myself ski with a group, and its part of the social side of skiing to stop and have a beer late in the day, probably a coffee in the morning, although I know a few ladies in particular who like a couple of gluhweins at the 10.30 morning stop and who in fact claim they ski far better once they've had them!!!!

Each to his own, but as always, I think its wise to avoid excess, or to bang on to people about doing it to excess when in fact they don't, if you get me Brian?
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Tspill
reply to 'Ski insurance restrictions'
posted Jan-2014

Snapzzz wrote:
Finn wrote:Is it illegal to have alcohol in your system when skiing? There may well be a moral argument to support this but there isn't a legal one as far as I can tell, i dont think drink driving limits can be applied to skiing. You could be done for reckless endangerment by the police but you would have to be really pissed. UK Gov travel website has no guidance on alcohol limit when skiing.
This is your holiday, having a pint at lunch or before the last run of the day is not reckless behaviour having six pints & four jäger tees would be.


Totally agree Finn.
But We aren't talking about the law of the land here, we are at the mercy of the T&C's of your insurance.


To me, this is the key point. Insurance companies will use anything at all to get out of a claim. They are a law to themselves. And on a mountain I for one don't want to take any risks so simply don't drink at all on the slopes (and haven't done so for a few years for this very reason). It doesn't matter from this perspective what others do or don't do - I don't want to risk being un-insured.

Tony_H
reply to 'Ski insurance restrictions'
posted Jan-2014

tspill wrote:
Snapzzz wrote:
Finn wrote:Is it illegal to have alcohol in your system when skiing? There may well be a moral argument to support this but there isn't a legal one as far as I can tell, i dont think drink driving limits can be applied to skiing. You could be done for reckless endangerment by the police but you would have to be really pissed. UK Gov travel website has no guidance on alcohol limit when skiing.
This is your holiday, having a pint at lunch or before the last run of the day is not reckless behaviour having six pints & four jäger tees would be.


Totally agree Finn.
But We aren't talking about the law of the land here, we are at the mercy of the T&C's of your insurance.


To me, this is the key point. Insurance companies will use anything at all to get out of a claim. They are a law to themselves. And on a mountain I for one don't want to take any risks so simply don't drink at all on the slopes (and haven't done so for a few years for this very reason). It doesn't matter from this perspective what others do or don't do - I don't want to risk being un-insured.


Very sensible approach, lets just hope you dont run into the idiot who has had the 6 pints and 4 jager tees.
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Dids1
reply to 'Ski insurance restrictions'
posted Jan-2014

Watched Snow, Sex and Suspicious Parents ( just for the skiing bits you understand) and I was shocked at just how drunk these kids were in the bars.
Literally incapable of putting their skis on. Which was probably best for other slope users because they had to take the gondola down.

Stevesmoothie
reply to 'Ski insurance restrictions'
posted Jan-2014

So in the event of an accident do the medical staff in ski countries routinely test for alcohol or just if they suspect someone involved in the accident is pissed? I do like a small beer at lunchtime sometimes and I don't want to get breathalised if some other muppet crashes in to me!
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Tspill
reply to 'Ski insurance restrictions'
posted Jan-2014

Tony_H wrote:
tspill wrote:
Snapzzz wrote:
Finn wrote:Is it illegal to have alcohol in your system when skiing? There may well be a moral argument to support this but there isn't a legal one as far as I can tell, i dont think drink driving limits can be applied to skiing. You could be done for reckless endangerment by the police but you would have to be really pissed. UK Gov travel website has no guidance on alcohol limit when skiing.
This is your holiday, having a pint at lunch or before the last run of the day is not reckless behaviour having six pints & four jäger tees would be.


Totally agree Finn.
But We aren't talking about the law of the land here, we are at the mercy of the T&C's of your insurance.


To me, this is the key point. Insurance companies will use anything at all to get out of a claim. They are a law to themselves. And on a mountain I for one don't want to take any risks so simply don't drink at all on the slopes (and haven't done so for a few years for this very reason). It doesn't matter from this perspective what others do or don't do - I don't want to risk being un-insured.


Very sensible approach, lets just hope you dont run into the idiot who has had the 6 pints and 4 jager tees.


Unfortunately that is something difficult to avoid.

Two years ago there was a girl skiing extremely quickly on a blue. She caught the back of my skis and must have tumbles 50 yards down the slope while I was OK :) You always het idiots skiing inappropriately (whether with or without alcohol).

Andyhull
reply to 'Ski insurance restrictions'
posted Jan-2014

This is from Aviva's ski safety guide:

DON'T drink and ski.
A glass of wine or beer with your lunch is fine.
Excess alcohol will slow your reactions and affect your observation and balance.

http://www.aviva.co.uk/news-and-guides/travel-tips/skiing-safely/

They do realise that you are on holiday, alcohol consumption would need to be deemed reckless for it to effect a claim. Keep it sensible and you won't have a problem.

Topic last updated on 07-January-2014 at 11:25