Scott Neo's

AHEM!!!

I suggested you take both pairs, to cover all eventuallities.

(There's no helping some people, Basil.)

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Clearly, your learned friend, needs to go and do some more er...learning. Tight turn radius all mountain mid fats are now commonplace.
You want them, so just go and buy them, before someone else does :lol:

Tony_H wrote:Just what I was hoping to hear, Hirsty. My learned friend who likes a skinny GS ski suggested these were too fat to carve. It seems your experience and the reviews on the ski I have found confirm this is not the case, and that the sidecut enhances carving.
He did tell me I might not like them on bumpy icy pistes, but I dont like bumpy icy pistes anyway!
Let me know how you get on on them in the real stuff.

IMHO waist width is not an issue one way or the other, when considering how a ski (or board) might carve. The larger the waist width, the less chance of boot out (without lifter plates). More important for carving is whether the ski is damp, has good vibration damping, and is torsionally stiff. As an off pist targeted ski I wonder if the Neo has those carving properties above. The thoughts on waist width in racing are (I would guess) greater surface area (faster) Vs wider shovel (slower).
Unless you are woried about 1/00 ths of a second down the hill, I think a wider waist is more versatile.

That's why I would really like to try the Tiger Shark 12. As it looks to have great carving properties along with the wider waist width.





Trencher

Trencher wrote:

Tony_H wrote:Just what I was hoping to hear, Hirsty. My learned friend who likes a skinny GS ski suggested these were too fat to carve. It seems your experience and the reviews on the ski I have found confirm this is not the case, and that the sidecut enhances carving.
He did tell me I might not like them on bumpy icy pistes, but I dont like bumpy icy pistes anyway!
Let me know how you get on on them in the real stuff.

. As an off pist targeted ski I wonder if the Neo has those carving properties above.



Trencher

That was my reasoning, although I will openly add that I know next-to-nothing about off-piste targetted skis, so it was a bit of a guess!!

Buy the Neo's, I'll bring my Thrusters with us to St Anton and we'll check to see that we are both still crap in the deep stuff 8)

ellistine wrote:Buy the Neo's, I'll bring my Thrusters with us to St Anton and we'll check to see that we are both still crap in the deep stuff 8)

I think we can confirm that will be the case here and now, my friend!
I am looking forward to trying though.

The Scott Neo's performance category is aimed at all mountain use (at least in Europe). the waist is not wide enough for it to be considered a Freeride ski, and pukka off piste skis tend to have waists around 90-125mm these days, depending on the size of your cojones.
Additionally the turn radius is too short for use as a dedicated Freeride ski, and unsuitable for deep OP stuff, for the same reason. That's not to say that a good skier could not use it all all over the terrain, however other skis do it easier for mere mortals.
The waist of the Neo just scrapes into the bottom of the norms for the mid-fat category waist width at 83mm. It's likely to be quite lively as it has a wood core.

It's a good choice for a developing skier wanting to blast pistes, and venture OP if conditions are good.

Scott are not paying me to spout this drivel.

Tony_H go buy the skis :D

bandit wrote:The Scott Neo's performance category is aimed at all mountain use (at least in Europe). the waist is not wide enough for it to be considered a Freeride ski, and pukka off piste skis tend to have waists around 90-125mm these days, depending on the size of your cojones.
Additionally the turn radius is too short for use as a dedicated Freeride ski, and unsuitable for deep OP stuff, for the same reason. That's not to say that a good skier could not use it all all over the terrain, however other skis do it easier for mere mortals.
The waist of the Neo just scrapes into the bottom of the norms for the mid-fat category waist width at 83mm. It's likely to be quite lively as it has a wood core.

It's a good choice for a developing skier wanting to blast pistes, and venture OP if conditions are good.

Scott are not paying me to spout this drivel.

Tony_H go buy the skis :D

Thanks for that. My current skis are 68 in the waist, so thats a big enough jump, thanks! Sounds to me exactly what I am looking for. I need to sort boots first, though.