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Started by Sm4sh in Ski Chatter - 36 Replies

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AllyG
reply to 'Chalet holiday but on a budget.'
posted Oct-2014

sm4sh wrote:Thanks guys for the tips, just been looking at Planibel hotel/apartments.

Would you say I am better booking a holiday as soon as I find one or waiting and booking in December sometime?


I would say either book well ahead, when there's plenty of availability and you've got loads of time to think about it, or book last minute and just get the best bargain you can find in an OK sort of resort.

The other thing you have to think of (unless you go all inclusive), is the price of food and drink on the slopes. In Tignes you could pay 5 euros for a cup of tea in a mountain restaurant, whereas in Folgarida it was more like 1 euro! And likewise, in Tignes, a small bargain lunch for me, with a drink, was about 15 euros but in Folgarida (Italy) it was only 3-50 euros!!

Oh, and the lift pass in Sauze d'Oulx is pretty cheap as well. In the slack period after New Year from 6th January, it's only 130 euros, which is currently about £103 for the Via Lattea area (before bank charges for the currency conversion). But for the 5th January it's 190 euros. I think the price with Crystal is £161 for the lift pass, and £50 for the ski hire, but you'd have to check. If we book lessons through the Sauze hotel it's 130 euros (reduced from 150 euros) for 3 hours per day for 6 days. I don't know what Crystal are charging.

So, I would expect the total holiday cost of the Sauze hotel for 6th Jan booked through Crystal to be about:
Half board hotel plus transfers = £500
Lift pass = £161
Ski hire = £50
Total = £711 per person.

Plus, they're often offering 2 for 1 on lift passes or ski hire.

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Tony_H
reply to 'Chalet holiday but on a budget.'
posted Oct-2014

Add £300 into Ally's equation as she hasnt factored in lunches and drinks and spending money, so thats a round £1000 or so for a budget holiday in a 2 star hotel on a package with Gatwick flights at 6am (usually) in a resort which is well known for erratic snowfall.

Food and drink prices do vary massively based on where you go, which is why something like the Club Med packages are well worth a look as I could find one of their deals for £1000 all in to certain resorts on 3rd or 4th Jan (6th is actually a Tuesday so you won't get a Crystal package going that day.....)

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AllyG
reply to 'Chalet holiday but on a budget.'
posted Oct-2014

Tony,
I don't know what the prices are like in Sauze, because I haven't been there yet. But I'm quite sure I didn't spend more than about 40 euros all week in Folgarida on food and drink.

And the Sauze hotel is 3 star, not 2 star, and has very good reviews.

http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Hotel_Review-g194891-d3301609-Reviews-Hotel_Sauze-Sauze_d_Oulx_Province_of_Turin_Piedmont.html

It's not that I'm pushing that particular hotel out of the thousands available in various ski resorts, it's just that I happen to have researched it because I'm going there!

Oh, and whilst we're factoring in extra expenses, I always find it amazing how much I spend in airports and train stations. Last time I took a packed lunch with me and saved a load of money!

Tony_H
reply to 'Chalet holiday but on a budget.'
posted Oct-2014

I couldnt survive on 40 euros a day for food and drink, I have no idea how you do it. Morning drink will be a couple of euros, lunch around 10-15 maybe, couplf of afternoon drinks another 10, and then a couple of giraffes of wine or beers another 10-20 depending on quantity and prices.

The Sauze is 3 star in Italy, and according to Crystal. That doesn't mean its much better than your average 2 star, remember I have stayed there a few years ago. It really must have been gutted and rebuilt for it to deserve 3 star status. Dont get me wrong, its reasonably comfortable and in a great position, but the furniture was old and tatty, the corridors and stairwells echoing and noisy, and the bedrooms were downright dangerous with wires hanging off the walls. I seriously hope the place has been renovated from top top bottom for your sake.

Anyway, none of this helps the OP.

40 euros for the week!!!!! You clearly cant eat or drink more than one espresso and a panini a day!!!!!
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SwingBeep
reply to 'Chalet holiday but on a budget.'
posted Oct-2014

There is a great deal of confusion about European hotel star ratings. The systems vary from country to country and in Italy from region to region. Even though they are both 3 star hotels the Hotel Sauze clearly isn't in the same league as the Hotel Maria in Ortisei http://www.hotelmaria.cc/en/Default.asp.

The European Consumer Centres' Network has produced a brochure detailing how hotels are classified in each EU state. http://ec.europa.eu/consumers/ecc/docs/hotel_establishment_classification_EU_en.pdf

The hotels associations of Austria, Czech Republic, Germany, Hungary, Netherlands, Sweden and Switzerland have created the Hotelstars Union which also classifies hotels according to specific criteria http://www.hotelstars.eu/index.php?id=1

The points about the condition of the hotel Tony_H made aren't taken into account when the authorities decide how many stars a hotel can have.

AllyG
reply to 'Chalet holiday but on a budget.'
posted Oct-2014

Tony, I think they must have renovated the Sauze hotel since you were there last, or it wouldn't have had such good reviews on Trip Advisor.

Back on topic:
One of the main differences I have noticed between chalets and hotels, from the financial point of view, is that chalets seem to give you free drinks of tea and coffee and wine with meals, whereas hotels seem to charge for all drinks other than at breakfast when you can usually have a choice between fruit juice, tea or coffee.

And also, chalets give you something when you get in from ski-ing, usually cake and tea/coffee, at around 4 p.m. Mind you, some of the hotels are starting to do this as well. I notice that the Sauze is offering 'tea' from 4-5 p.m. I hope this includes actual 'tea' and not just something like peanuts!

Oh, and here's another tip for you Sm4sh, have a look at the reviews on Trip Advisor for whichever chalet/hotel you are considering. They are often most informative. I just checked the Sauze ones (again) to find out about the afternoon tea, and it says this:

'The bar. At reception there is a small bar and whilst lacking in apres atmosphere they do offer the cheapest drinks in town. They also provide tea and cake for when you get off the mountain. Oh did I mention the free wifi.'

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Sm4sh
reply to 'Chalet holiday but on a budget.'
posted Oct-2014

Ha ha, can't beat abit of free wifi! Ill have a look at trip advisor to see what peoples reviews are of a hotel. I think at the moment I have been looking towards Hotel Planibel which one of you suggested earlier in the thread but then I also might wait until December and see then what is available.
I do like the idea of a Chalet but think I need abit more of advanced planning, so maybe next year.

I realised this week my passport runs out in November... So that has just cost me £80!!! Good job I noticed though else I wouldn't be going anywhere.

Tony_H
reply to 'Chalet holiday but on a budget.'
posted Oct-2014

AllyG wrote:Tony, I think they must have renovated the Sauze hotel since you were there last, or it wouldn't have had such good reviews on Trip Advisor.

Back on topic:
One of the main differences I have noticed between chalets and hotels, from the financial point of view, is that chalets seem to give you free drinks of tea and coffee and wine with meals, whereas hotels seem to charge for all drinks other than at breakfast when you can usually have a choice between fruit juice, tea or coffee.

And also, chalets give you something when you get in from ski-ing, usually cake and tea/coffee, at around 4 p.m. Mind you, some of the hotels are starting to do this as well. I notice that the Sauze is offering 'tea' from 4-5 p.m. I hope this includes actual 'tea' and not just something like peanuts!

Oh, and here's another tip for you Sm4sh, have a look at the reviews on Trip Advisor for whichever chalet/hotel you are considering. They are often most informative. I just checked the Sauze ones (again) to find out about the afternoon tea, and it says this:

'The bar. At reception there is a small bar and whilst lacking in apres atmosphere they do offer the cheapest drinks in town. They also provide tea and cake for when you get off the mountain. Oh did I mention the free wifi.'


Hey Ally, I just had a look at the Sauze website. Looks very much to me like the bedrooms have had a lick of paint, but they're still very much the same as when I was there a few years back, and the bathrooms are unchanged, maybe some new furniture. Best of luck.

As for trip advisor - I think its a really useful tool for getting a general idea of what a hotel comes across as, but you have to consdier a couple of things: firstly the kind of people who go to these places and say its brilliant. For example, look at reviews of Playa de las Americas in Tenerife - not somewhere I would ever consider going, but some of the reviews are incredibly good, but you have to consider the type of people who go there, and what they are looking for. My experience of Hotel Sauze was that if you wanted to party all night and crawl back in a 3 or 4am and wake everyone in the hotel up, then you'd say it was a great base. If you were one of the people trying to get a good nights sleep to ski hard early next morning, you might say it was a dreadful place.
Secondly, people only tend to write a review if they have had a really bad experience and want to warn others, or if they have a vested interest in promoting the place, or unless it was genuinely fantastic.
But you will get a flavour from a consensus as to whether the place is good or not. Expect mixed reviews, as it is all at the end of the day extremely subjective.



As for hotel vs chalet, Ally is right about the food and drink. In a chalet, the main difference is usually they are smaller and cater for maybe 6-18 people often. Some places are bigger, but mainly a chalet is more intimate, like a home from home. You will be looked after by a host who will cook for you, and they will usually be very flexible about what time they serve meals, based on what the majority of guests request, and also what they will cook. Whereas a hotel tends to advertise times for meals, and my experience says if yo miss the first sitting food can often be hard to come by, so eat early!
Chalets will allow you in and out all day, much more flexible on what you are allowed to wear around the place, whereas a hotel may specify what you can wear in certain areas. A hotel will have a bar, a chalet you can bring your own beers in and put them in the fridge or buy them cheap from the hosts if they prefer that way.
You will get wine served technically free with dinner, and if your host if a decent guy or girl, generally they will let you help yourself to the wine from tea time to bed time. Some companies are a little more "stiff" and less flexible, stingey I have heard it called!
And yes, you can get free hot drinks all day every day in a chalet, whereas in a hotel you probably would have ton either pay or they may only provide them at restricted times.
No big queue for breakfast or dinner in a chalet either. I've found myself waiting at 8am for someone to come and open gates or a rope into the dining area in order to get breakfast done as fast as possible, with the owners pedantically waiting until exactly 8am until they open up! Whereas in a chalet we have had the hosts agree to serve breakfast from 7.30 for example so that we are out by 8 and on the first lift at 1/4 past, thus killing every bird with the same stone and avoiding any lift queues as well.

Everyones different, everyone has their preferences, and one experience in each could be quite different to another. Personally I really like chalet holidays, more intimate and personal, less stiff if you like, less regulated and better value for money in the main. But I have also had some extremely good hotel holidays, mainly in Austria as the quality there seems to be higher than in Italy certainly, and much of the French ones I have been to as well, unless you pay through the nose of course. I still say Club Med offers very good value for money as an overall package, especially when you take into acocunt you can eat lunch on the slopes in their dedicated restaurants and the food quality is excellent. Only 2 people I travelled with felt the food was not good, but then they are the sort of people that ask for chips every meal and want half a bottle of ketchup all over their food, so probably wouldn't appreciate the better food anyway. You know the type....

Anyway Sm4sh, plenty to consider. Don't be put off a chalet holiday if you are bothered about people in your chalet, its a sociable thing and you all have the one love in common, skiing.

I hope you make a good choice and enjoy it.
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Topic last updated on 22-October-2014 at 12:46