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AllyG
reply to 'This season in doubt :-('
posted Nov-2012

jonG wrote:Hi Guys and Gals,


Thanks for all the help, tips and info....

Just got back from seeing the Consultant with the MRI results and have High-Grade ACL injury which is complete or near complete, also a Horizontal Cleavage Tear at the junction between the Anterior Horn and Lateral Mensiscus so will need an Orthoscopy and 3 weeks off work....

So better than I thought, also signs of slight Arthritus in the knee ( only blummin 40 yrs old ) .

jon.


Thanks for the info Jon, but I'm afraid you've totally lost me :oops:

What are they going to do to fix your knee?

And is there anything the rest of us can do to avoid an injury like yours, other than pre-ski-ing exercises to strengthen the knee?

Trencher
reply to 'This season in doubt :-('
posted Nov-2012

AllyG wrote:

And is there anything the rest of us can do to avoid an injury like yours, other than pre-ski-ing exercises to strengthen the knee?


The bigger your quads, the better, with muscle, not the other stuff -)

When skiing, avoid falling rearwards with flexed knees, especially to the side. If you are falling into this position, don't fight it. It's the stress on the knee of trying to muscle your weight back up while the knee is flexed and twisted that is often destructive.

Jon, good luck with the knee. The meds will good for a few days though -)
because I'm so inclined .....

Edited 3 times. Last update at 06-Nov-2012

JonG
reply to 'This season in doubt :-('
posted Nov-2012

AllyG wrote:
jonG wrote:Hi Guys and Gals,


Thanks for all the help, tips and info....

Just got back from seeing the Consultant with the MRI results and have High-Grade ACL injury which is complete or near complete, also a Horizontal Cleavage Tear at the junction between the Anterior Horn and Lateral Mensiscus so will need an Orthoscopy and 3 weeks off work....

So better than I thought, also signs of slight Arthritus in the knee ( only blummin 40 yrs old ) .

jon.


Thanks for the info Jon, but I'm afraid you've totally lost me :oops:

What are they going to do to fix your knee?

And is there anything the rest of us can do to avoid an injury like yours, other than pre-ski-ing exercises to strengthen the knee?


Hiya,

To be honest he lost me a bit, basically I've torn my ACL slightly but it has healed a little on it's own accord but not properly, also the bowl that the knee joint sits in is kind of like a grissly sack with fluid in which has a the cleavage tear, so they will put a keyhole into my knee and take out the piece thats torn and smooth it off so it doesnt get caught between the cartilige and bone.

I got the injury skiing backwards whilst watching a friend learning and went down into a slight hole, the tails of the skis went into the snow up to the back of my bindings which threw me back into a sitting position quite hard and quickly and knee joint bent further than it's dessigned to do.....Imagine holding a piece of wood at the back of the knee then sitting down onto your heels hard, eventually youd pull the joint apart, thats kind of what I'd done....better posture and strengthened thigh and legs muscles would have probably prevented this injury to be honest.

Cheers again guys for the support and info and I'll keep you all posted.

jon.
www  jonathan www.ski-bourgstmaurice-lesarcs.co.uk

AllyG
reply to 'This season in doubt :-('
posted Nov-2012

Thanks Trencher and Jon :D

So I need to do lots of squats etc. and not try to ski backwards without checking the snow very carefully for holes first?

Best of luck Jon. I'm glad it doesn't sound too bad :thumbup:

SwingBeep
reply to 'This season in doubt :-('
posted Nov-2012

AllyG, before using the skis that Ranchero has kindly given you, have the bindings tested on a binding test machine. This is the only way you can be sure that they are functioning properly; the shop should give you a printout with the values on it.

The type of fall that Trencher mentioned is called a phantom foot or slip catch fall, this type of fall seems to be the major cause of knee injuries, which account for about 40% of all skiing injuries. Female skiers are three times more likely to injure their ACL than male skiers.

IMO boot binding setup plays as significant role. A short skier in a small boot with a lot of forward lean combined with a binding that has a large delta angle (the angle formed by the difference in stand height between the toe and heel pieces) is likely to be forced into the 'back seat', making a backwards fall more likely.

A lot of research has been done into this type of injury, but little if any information trickles down to recreational skiers.

http://www.taosortho.com/Site/meniscus_pub_files/Skier%27s%20Knee-1.pdf

http://www.klokavskade.no/upload/Publication/Bere_2011_AJSM_Mechanisms%20of%20ACL%20injury%20in%20World%20Cup%20alpine%20skiing.pdf


jonG wrote: I got the injury skiing backwards whilst watching a friend learning and went down into a slight hole, the tails of the skis went into the snow up to the back of my bindings which threw me back into a sitting position quite hard and quickly and knee joint bent further than it's dessigned to do.....Imagine holding a piece of wood at the back of the knee then sitting down onto your heels hard, eventually youd pull the joint apart, thats kind of what I'd done....better posture and strengthened thigh and legs muscles would have probably prevented this injury to be honest.

Nasty, hope you make a full recovery.

AllyG
reply to 'This season in doubt :-('
posted Nov-2012

SwingBeep, I am planning on asking the ski hire shop people to set the skis up for me - I have no idea how to do this. Will they test the bindings as part of normal routine, or will I have to ask them to do it?

I find it pretty scary thinking about getting hurt ski-ing. When I broke my shoulder on the dry slope I didn't have time to think about what I should do as I fell - it all happened far too fast. Like - bang - ow!

NellyPS
reply to 'This season in doubt :-('
posted Nov-2012

Hope it all heals well Jon and you're back on the slopes super fast.

JonG
reply to 'This season in doubt :-('
posted Nov-2012

Hi All,




Here's the MRI of my knee, on the left is the joint showing the ACL ( i think he said ) the white line should go all the way across but on the right side of the left picture the ACL goes across then sort of explodes into loads of fibres . The picture on the right shows what I think is the Anterior Horn ( little lumpy bit in the middle of the bottom bone, the whote splodge in the joint is the cleavage tear and the fluid thats collected, which presses on the lateral outside of the knee causing sorness and pain.

Another little tip, my consultant said that they are getting instances of BUPA etc obviously trying not to pay in certain circumstances with joint injuries, but when he said " does the joint lock up when you agrivate it" whilst nodding profusely and I replied "yes" he replied "correct answer".

So just incase any insurer asks about a joint injury be sure to tell them the joint locks up when you hurt it.

jon.



www  jonathan www.ski-bourgstmaurice-lesarcs.co.uk

Topic last updated on 06-November-2012 at 21:57