Non Smoking

I know what you mean, but it honestly never bothered me having to go outside. Like I said I ALWAYS went outside to smoke, even before it was law. I didn't smoke in my house, so didn't smoke indoors anywhere else.I'd never stand in the doorway either! I always went right up the garden or the smoke all went in the house! But I do agree that some bars could be smokers bars. In fact I have often said, the "old" system, when I was a lass lol, there was a lounge and a bar in most pubs, and you could have had the bar for smokers. However it seems to be trendy to knock em all though to one these days. I have no objection whatsover to having smokers bars. I just think anywhere where there are children staying should be non smoking

Looks like we agree on that then! Shame the people with the power don't seem able to reach a sensible compromise.

I never smoked outdoors, for me it was about sitting down relaxing with a cup of coffee...Or a few alcoholic drinks.

The situation that annoys me is you stop for lunch its blowing a blizzard and its minus 20. myself and a few other foolish outside smoking its ok everybody warm inside.the next day nice and sunny everybody now outside having there lunch.so where does the smoker go now. As a smoker it has always annoyed myself if whilst eating someone nearby is smoking and try too be sympathethic to others but it can be impossible on a busy veranda.and on occasions had families come and share the table and then complain if I light a cigarette. I leave the pack on the table for a reason in plain sightfor a reason

If you are smoking outside then people should move away. The only place outdoors I don't agree wiht it is in a queue where you can't move. Eg at Alton Towers. (It IS banned in queues but they don't enforce it. If you're in the middle of an hour long queue and someone nearby is smoking, the smoke goes all over the kids. You can't move em!

Snowb4ndit, I too enjoyed a fag with a coffee or drink, but I took the drink outside with me lol

The reason a smoking ban in bars and restaurants is important, is because bars will not risk losing business by being smoke free. Sounds old fashioned, and you would think a smoke free bar would do well, but no one will take the chance unless all businesses are made to do the same. The big worry for the insurance industry are the claims for smoke related diseases by people who have worked in bars and restaurants. Bars are like any other work place and workers should not be exposed to harmful chemicals. It a changing world.

Discodee wrote:If you are smoking outside then people should move away. The only place outdoors I don't agree wiht it is in a queue where you can't move. Eg at Alton Towers. (It IS banned in queues but they don't enforce it. If you're in the middle of an hour long queue and someone nearby is smoking, the smoke goes all over the kids. You can't move em!

Snowb4ndit, I too enjoyed a fag with a coffee or drink, but I took the drink outside with me lol

Each to their own, I physically did not like smoking outside, I don't know why but what I was enhaling just didn't seem the same outside unless the air was as hot as inside.

Trencher wrote:The reason a smoking ban in bars and restaurants is important, is because bars will not risk losing business by being smoke free. Sounds old fashioned, and you would think a smoke free bar would do well, but no one will take the chance unless all businesses are made to do the same. The big worry for the insurance industry are the claims for smoke related diseases by people who have worked in bars and restaurants. Bars are like any other work place and workers should not be exposed to harmful chemicals. It a changing world.

It could be controlled with licences.

All the people who work in my local pub smoke and have to go outside for their fag break, given the choice (and they would be very happy with a choice) I am sure they would chosse to work in a smoking bar. With license controlled smoking bars non smoking staff would still have a choice of smoke free bars.

Unfortunately many non smokers (and I know it's not all) seem to think that they are cut above the rest and that everywhere should be to their liking. People who smoke have made a lifestyle choice, it doesn't have to affect others. Live and let live is what I say.

Unfortunately no bar will be willing choose to risk loss of business by being the first to go smoke free. So effectively, there is no choice. On the occasions I indulge in a cigarette, I do it outside, +40 or -20. I would never want to inflict carcinogenic chemicals on others. Fortunately no one was ever addicted to asbestos and DDT, or we would be arguing over those as well.