to much choice ,not enough knowledge!!!!!!!

i class myself as a beginer + as i am at the stage where i have this big grin on the face every time i go down a blue but a tightening of the butt at reds ,as i have only skied twice ,alpe deuz ,and soldeu andorra, i still dont know much about sking at all ,but i want to get better and i think the ski,s on your feet is the place to start,im 6ft 2 in old money and 17 .7 stone most of the time,the first time i skied i had 180 heads and although it took 2-3 days to get used to them and snow i think they were fine i actually managed to do a fair few parellel turns with some pidgeon feet in between on the first trip ,andorra was a little different the hire guy thought i should have 188 salomons ,so on the second day took a fall and lost a day and half on the slopes licking my wounds i think the ice had something to do with it (not a good year ),now i want to buy my own as i think the more you use the better the feel a bit like my boots,if i had to say what style i ski i dont know the terminology is but i like lots of turns gradualy building up speed with my confidence,and skiing in austria zell am see feb next year ,any ideas on the length or type of skis ,i have nordic boots size big,

As you describe your current experience those skis, especially the Salomons, sound a bit a long to me. For piste I only ski a pair of 170 slalom skis although I'm slightly lighter.

Sounds like you want a pair of carving skis, mostly piste skiing etc. There's just so many around, I've been impressed at the deals at Sport Conrad (http://www.sport-conrad.com). They'll do a package deal, skis and binding etc. I'd honestly say why not start to look there, start at the lower prices and dig out some reviews. The truth is there's so many good skis around that would meet your needs.

For example, there are last seasons Atomic SX9's which I think was a well considered ski for on €259 although you might want something with a higer DIN range than that particular package.

thank you for your reply ise,so basically iam a i70 -175 size ,but need to loose a bit of bacon before the season starts :lol:on the serious side the skis last year were flaping side to side a lot,i will take a look at the atomics sx9s ,what do you think of a salomon 2vgs 175, sg 12ti bindings they are advertised as carvers any good .

tomski wrote:thank you for your reply ise,so basically iam a i70 -175 size ,but need to loose a bit of bacon before the season starts :lol:on the serious side the skis last year were flaping side to side a lot,i will take a look at the atomics sx9s ,what do you think of a salomon 2vgs 175, sg 12ti bindings they are advertised as carvers any good .

You mean the Equipe 2V? That's a Giant Slalom ski, I've skied the 3V and at the time they were one of the best skis that Salomon ever made. But, I'd think that's not going to be what you want at all. It's a brutal ski, it's not a detuned version of the 3V. The 3V is a slalom ski, ie short, fast turns while the 2V is a GS ski which is very fast high radius turns. That's really Ski Sunday territory :-)

On the other hand Salomon have made some utterly awful skis, just horrible on so many levels and your description of skis flapping around sounds like trademark Salomon. This is partly due, in my opinion, the the composite constructions, ie it's not wood. A lot of better skis are laminated wood cores while some of the cheaper ones are composite or foam cores. One of the problems with poor cores is that they don't have such a long life and get progressively more damp over time. Like most main stream manufacturers Salomon make both wood core and foam core skis.

tomski wrote:skis last year were flaping side to side a lot

Is this just a case of not maintaining enough pressure on the front of the boot? I always used to have trouble with this. Especially when out of the comfort zone when it's more difficult to stay forward. I might be wrong - it might be the skis. :?:

ellistine wrote:

tomski wrote:skis last year were flaping side to side a lot

Is this just a case of not maintaining enough pressure on the front of the boot? I always used to have trouble with this. Especially when out of the comfort zone when it's more difficult to stay forward. I might be wrong - it might be the skis. :?:

It can be both. if your ski lacks any rigidity it will be deflected and flap around. As you say the same effect is achieved by not having your weight back.

thank you for your comments every one very helpfull, i think you are all on the right lines the ski,s may have been a bit tired as they were hire ones ,and my brother in law said a few times lean forward you wont fall down,and also as a big guy i exspect my legs ect get tired towards the end of a week ,ise decided to go for the atomics sx9s 170 they are going cheap so i have bargain ,and i got a feeling south west england is in for a dump of snow this winter ,white quantock hills great!!!!!!!!!!!! cheers

tomski wrote: ,ise decided to go for the atomics sx9s 170 they are going cheap so i have bargain ,

where did you get them from in the end?

I hope you're happy with them, everyone I know who's got them seems to like them a lot. It's a skier-X cross which is supposed to be a bit of everything but a close cousin to the slalom ski and it should ski pretty short so 170 sounds good.